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		<title>By: New Year Blog Resolutions - ChurchCrunch</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48112</link>
		<dc:creator>New Year Blog Resolutions - ChurchCrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blogging is different for all of us.  Without question.  And just as diverse are our motivations and reasons for blogging.  Some of us just blog for fun, some of us to support our already weak egos, some to reach others the amazing Gospel story, and some of us, like DJ Chuang, do it  &#8220;just because we can&#8220;. [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blogging is different for all of us.  Without question.  And just as diverse are our motivations and reasons for blogging.  Some of us just blog for fun, some of us to support our already weak egos, some to reach others the amazing Gospel story, and some of us, like DJ Chuang, do it  &#8220;just because we can&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48105</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,not the worst and not that bad either. i enjoy ingenuity and embrace pushing the boundaries of a product outside the normal and intended use and purpose.  I just question, at times, the value and whether or not it was thought through. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,not the worst and not that bad either. i enjoy ingenuity and embrace pushing the boundaries of a product outside the normal and intended use and purpose.  I just question, at times, the value and whether or not it was thought through.</p>
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		<title>By: adam mclane</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48104</link>
		<dc:creator>adam mclane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good. I&#039;m just having some eggnog induced fun with you. Glad you took it as such. 
 
Certainly, that&#039;s not the worst church idea I&#039;ve ever seen.  
 
Like you, I found it ironic that church folk just discovered TokBox. I mean, it&#039;s been out FOREVER! But Todd mentions it and the next thing I know I have 25 invites. I couldn&#039;t even remember creating an account! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s all good. I&#039;m just having some eggnog induced fun with you. Glad you took it as such. </p>
<p>Certainly, that&#039;s not the worst church idea I&#039;ve ever seen.  </p>
<p>Like you, I found it ironic that church folk just discovered TokBox. I mean, it&#039;s been out FOREVER! But Todd mentions it and the next thing I know I have 25 invites. I couldn&#039;t even remember creating an account!</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48103</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, 
 
Not sure if I&#039;m claiming that Todd is &quot;ripping&quot; off an idea here.  In fact, he&#039;s original... the first to use TokBox in this manner.  So Todd is an original gangsta in my book. 
 
In addition, perhaps you haven&#039;t given TokBox the necessary time nor attention to bear fruit from it?  Todd&#039;s implementation is, in part, an example of what you call a &quot;bust&quot;: video chat with anyone.  So, you are, in effect, bringing the smack on Todd  yourself. 
 
But, I appreciate your point.  A number of others have already had raging success in using it for online ministry.  They can probably speak up better than myself. 
 
Thanks Adam!  Love it.  Even the criticism.  I&#039;ll take both any day. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, </p>
<p>Not sure if I&#039;m claiming that Todd is &quot;ripping&quot; off an idea here.  In fact, he&#039;s original&#8230; the first to use TokBox in this manner.  So Todd is an original gangsta in my book. </p>
<p>In addition, perhaps you haven&#039;t given TokBox the necessary time nor attention to bear fruit from it?  Todd&#039;s implementation is, in part, an example of what you call a &quot;bust&quot;: video chat with anyone.  So, you are, in effect, bringing the smack on Todd  yourself. </p>
<p>But, I appreciate your point.  A number of others have already had raging success in using it for online ministry.  They can probably speak up better than myself. </p>
<p>Thanks Adam!  Love it.  Even the criticism.  I&#039;ll take both any day.</p>
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		<title>By: adam mclane</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48102</link>
		<dc:creator>adam mclane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think it&#039;s funny that a blog that ripped its name off from techcrunch is mocking Todd Rhoades for ripping off an idea. I mean... REALLY? Todd is cash money in this biz.  
 
And for the record, I think TokBox is a bust. Sure, it&#039;s cool to be able to see a bunch of people and chat with them. But I don&#039;t have any desire to have open video chat with just anyone. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think it&#039;s funny that a blog that ripped its name off from techcrunch is mocking Todd Rhoades for ripping off an idea. I mean&#8230; REALLY? Todd is cash money in this biz.  </p>
<p>And for the record, I think TokBox is a bust. Sure, it&#039;s cool to be able to see a bunch of people and chat with them. But I don&#039;t have any desire to have open video chat with just anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror (human3rror)</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48106</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror (human3rror)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. someone just ripped me and tokbox a new one:  http://tinyurl.com/4eclrh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. someone just ripped me and tokbox a new one:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/4eclrh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4eclrh</a></p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48101</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe. the conversation is a pleasure!  much love brother. thanks for a good talk today.  keeps me grounded and on point. 
 
the weekends just begun1 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe. the conversation is a pleasure!  much love brother. thanks for a good talk today.  keeps me grounded and on point. </p>
<p>the weekends just begun1</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Daniels</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48100</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
 
This was great.  I love a good debate, hearing both sides of the point.  I actually agree with everything you said in the article!  Challenging the &quot;Church Culture&quot; in what is and is not effective is always a good direction for a conversation!!  Well done. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>This was great.  I love a good debate, hearing both sides of the point.  I actually agree with everything you said in the article!  Challenging the &quot;Church Culture&quot; in what is and is not effective is always a good direction for a conversation!!  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48099</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damon,  
 
you rock.  really appreciate this level of engagement from the business that runs the product. hard to come by, for sure! 
 
feedback coming. we want it to be awesome. 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damon,  </p>
<p>you rock.  really appreciate this level of engagement from the business that runs the product. hard to come by, for sure! </p>
<p>feedback coming. we want it to be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/tokbox-blows-up-reaction-typical-fail/#comment-48098</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah yes. i see you have discovered the missing link. 
 
as i mentioned on our call today, i have made it a point not to sit on the fence.  the church is behind technologically.  that was rhetorical.  neither a dumb question nor one that should be ignored.  comic effect works too. 
 
i would take into consideration though, independent of the calendar year, that this launch day +1.  typical engagement in new products is big the first few days.  again, independent of that, the usage was poor.   
 
but, you&#039;re right, i took a random sampling.  i should have included that i asked a few others personally their experience and when they attempted.  this rounded out my somewhat serious calculation. 
 
i attempt due-diligence in all things.  i sometimes leverage too much my extensive background in product development (years in the enterprise, corp america with fortune 50&#039;s)... i&#039;ve seen and heard almost everything. 
 
i will say that i a weak in mobile. 
 
but, i can&#039;t do everything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah yes. i see you have discovered the missing link. </p>
<p>as i mentioned on our call today, i have made it a point not to sit on the fence.  the church is behind technologically.  that was rhetorical.  neither a dumb question nor one that should be ignored.  comic effect works too. </p>
<p>i would take into consideration though, independent of the calendar year, that this launch day +1.  typical engagement in new products is big the first few days.  again, independent of that, the usage was poor.   </p>
<p>but, you&#039;re right, i took a random sampling.  i should have included that i asked a few others personally their experience and when they attempted.  this rounded out my somewhat serious calculation. </p>
<p>i attempt due-diligence in all things.  i sometimes leverage too much my extensive background in product development (years in the enterprise, corp america with fortune 50&#039;s)&#8230; i&#039;ve seen and heard almost everything. </p>
<p>i will say that i a weak in mobile. </p>
<p>but, i can&#039;t do everything.</p>
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