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	<title>Comments on: The Rise of the Mobile Church?</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Walker</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40924</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One day, we’ll probably be able to access talented communicators streaming live to our iphones...&quot;

I thought this statement was pretty amazing - I just experienced exactly that this past Sunday when I watched the live Northpoint broadcast Subday evening on my iPhone while at a friends house.  It was a serious mindmeld.  Technology is changing at an amazing pace and it&#039;s awesome to see it being leveraged for the kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One day, we’ll probably be able to access talented communicators streaming live to our iphones&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought this statement was pretty amazing &#8211; I just experienced exactly that this past Sunday when I watched the live Northpoint broadcast Subday evening on my iPhone while at a friends house.  It was a serious mindmeld.  Technology is changing at an amazing pace and it&#8217;s awesome to see it being leveraged for the kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Schoffelman</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40923</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Schoffelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda agreeing with Eric&#039;s and Paul&#039;s first point, in that I think it&#039;s extremely important we keep relationships and building relationships with others as a main focus.  
 
I love the idea of the &quot;mobile church&quot; to spread the Gospel, but with a few thoughts. How does the mobile church (media from the church) play into building relationships, how does it help us to personally touch people with the love of Christ and how are we able to keep people accountable in ways that can only be done by building a relationship? If we are to pursue and use the concept of the mobile church, I think it&#039;s important to keep everything in perspective, knowing it&#039;s for a few specific situations, but not a fix all for furthering the Gospel. But, by using it as another tool to gather / encourage people to become integrated into the local church, I think then it becomes a powerful medium. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda agreeing with Eric&#039;s and Paul&#039;s first point, in that I think it&#039;s extremely important we keep relationships and building relationships with others as a main focus.  </p>
<p>I love the idea of the &quot;mobile church&quot; to spread the Gospel, but with a few thoughts. How does the mobile church (media from the church) play into building relationships, how does it help us to personally touch people with the love of Christ and how are we able to keep people accountable in ways that can only be done by building a relationship? If we are to pursue and use the concept of the mobile church, I think it&#039;s important to keep everything in perspective, knowing it&#039;s for a few specific situations, but not a fix all for furthering the Gospel. But, by using it as another tool to gather / encourage people to become integrated into the local church, I think then it becomes a powerful medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam_S</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40922</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam_S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure you want to be kicking people out (which is what you seem to be suggesting).  But instead help people find additional resources to grow.  Many additional resources will include real life relationships and accountability.  But there are some that will always be more comfortable in an online realm. (Some of those are disabled, have phobias dealing with crowds, etc.)   
 
To me the point would seem to be, have people that are being reached been in church previously?  If many or most are not being stolen from another church  but are new evangelism then what is wrong with reaching out to people that are not currently being reached.  And if people are not currently being reached then it will likely take something new to reach them.  It is rare to reach someone that is currently unreached with something that we have already been doing and hasn&#039;t worked. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure you want to be kicking people out (which is what you seem to be suggesting).  But instead help people find additional resources to grow.  Many additional resources will include real life relationships and accountability.  But there are some that will always be more comfortable in an online realm. (Some of those are disabled, have phobias dealing with crowds, etc.)   </p>
<p>To me the point would seem to be, have people that are being reached been in church previously?  If many or most are not being stolen from another church  but are new evangelism then what is wrong with reaching out to people that are not currently being reached.  And if people are not currently being reached then it will likely take something new to reach them.  It is rare to reach someone that is currently unreached with something that we have already been doing and hasn&#039;t worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40921</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m all about continuing to fulfill Act&#039;s 1:8 &quot;the remotest parts of the earth&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#039;m all about continuing to fulfill Act&#039;s 1:8 &quot;the remotest parts of the earth&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: stephenbateman</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40920</link>
		<dc:creator>stephenbateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ought to be at the forefront of strategy, ensuring that disconnected people that show up @ #churchonline leave understanding that we&#039;re glad they came, but we hope they don&#039;t stay forever! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ought to be at the forefront of strategy, ensuring that disconnected people that show up @ #churchonline leave understanding that we&#039;re glad they came, but we hope they don&#039;t stay forever!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Steinbrueck</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40919</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Steinbrueck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Isn&#039;t online church just a stop on the spiritual journey? 
 
Stephen, I think that&#039;s a great question that I&#039;m not sure anyone has answered.  I&#039;m not sure it can be answered.  For what % of people who connect with a church online does it spur them towards engagement and what % of people does it spur disengagement by perpetuating the myth that&#039;s all there is to being a part of the body of Christ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Isn&#039;t online church just a stop on the spiritual journey? </p>
<p>Stephen, I think that&#039;s a great question that I&#039;m not sure anyone has answered.  I&#039;m not sure it can be answered.  For what % of people who connect with a church online does it spur them towards engagement and what % of people does it spur disengagement by perpetuating the myth that&#039;s all there is to being a part of the body of Christ?</p>
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		<title>By: chrishill</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40918</link>
		<dc:creator>chrishill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to log in earlier...doh! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to log in earlier&#8230;doh!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Granata</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40917</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Granata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Stephen (nice to see you in the wild). What we&#039;ve confused for church (sermons and a few songs) is just a part of Church. Relationships outside of the Sunday morning experience is where I do most of my learning and growing.

I also think that being a member of God&#039;s Kingdom requires much more than the consumption of the spiritual buffet to be found at churches and online campuses. Every member must take personal responsibility for their growth and spiritual health. That includes time in prayer, meditation on scriptures and personal (as opposed to corporate) worship.

I&#039;m not ready to say that a healthy Christian MUST have real-world, &quot;meatspace&quot; relationships. While there is no doubt that such relationships are far better than those restricted to Twitter, chat rooms and email, the way that human behavior (and the church with it) has evolved over the years leads me to think that eventually these types of relationships will be held in the same regard as &quot;real&quot; ones.

By the way (I hope this is okay), I wrote a post a few months ago about churches and iPhone apps. It relates to this post in that it presents several scenarios where an iPhone or mobile app could enhance a physical church service. http://churchtechdump.com/post/81434786/do-churches-really-need-their-own-iphone-apps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Stephen (nice to see you in the wild). What we&#8217;ve confused for church (sermons and a few songs) is just a part of Church. Relationships outside of the Sunday morning experience is where I do most of my learning and growing.</p>
<p>I also think that being a member of God&#8217;s Kingdom requires much more than the consumption of the spiritual buffet to be found at churches and online campuses. Every member must take personal responsibility for their growth and spiritual health. That includes time in prayer, meditation on scriptures and personal (as opposed to corporate) worship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not ready to say that a healthy Christian MUST have real-world, &#8220;meatspace&#8221; relationships. While there is no doubt that such relationships are far better than those restricted to Twitter, chat rooms and email, the way that human behavior (and the church with it) has evolved over the years leads me to think that eventually these types of relationships will be held in the same regard as &#8220;real&#8221; ones.</p>
<p>By the way (I hope this is okay), I wrote a post a few months ago about churches and iPhone apps. It relates to this post in that it presents several scenarios where an iPhone or mobile app could enhance a physical church service. <a href="http://churchtechdump.com/post/81434786/do-churches-really-need-their-own-iphone-apps" rel="nofollow">http://churchtechdump.com/post/81434786/do-churches-really-need-their-own-iphone-apps</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hill</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40916</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you&#039;ve never encountered them or maybe you haven&#039;t searched for them, but there are lots of people who don&#039;t draw the line between &quot;flesh &amp; blood&quot; relationships and &quot;online&quot; relationships. To them, thier online community is very real and no different from a &quot;physical community&quot;. Who are we to tell them their perspectives, emotions, and relationships are just a stop on their spiritual journey? Who are we to invalidate someone else&#039;s personal life experience.

@stephenbateman: Could that 95% be 95% of the people you know and not an actual representation of the viewpoints of lost people in the world?

If you disagree with the points above, it&#039;s okay. You can. Just know that you are not who the online/mobile church is trying to reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you&#8217;ve never encountered them or maybe you haven&#8217;t searched for them, but there are lots of people who don&#8217;t draw the line between &#8220;flesh &amp; blood&#8221; relationships and &#8220;online&#8221; relationships. To them, thier online community is very real and no different from a &#8220;physical community&#8221;. Who are we to tell them their perspectives, emotions, and relationships are just a stop on their spiritual journey? Who are we to invalidate someone else&#8217;s personal life experience.</p>
<p>@stephenbateman: Could that 95% be 95% of the people you know and not an actual representation of the viewpoints of lost people in the world?</p>
<p>If you disagree with the points above, it&#8217;s okay. You can. Just know that you are not who the online/mobile church is trying to reach.</p>
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		<title>By: stephenbateman</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/the-rise-of-the-mobile-church/#comment-40915</link>
		<dc:creator>stephenbateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna jump out on a little bit of a limb: 
 
Isn&#039;t online (or mobile or holographic haha) church just a stop on the spiritual journey? and for 95% of people not the destination. Eventually real physical community is necessary, if available.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m gonna jump out on a little bit of a limb: </p>
<p>Isn&#039;t online (or mobile or holographic haha) church just a stop on the spiritual journey? and for 95% of people not the destination. Eventually real physical community is necessary, if available.</p>
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