Comments on: The Challenge of Occupational and Recreational Boundaries http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:25:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jim http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41444 Jim Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:23:14 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41444 uh, were you listening in to the conversation Sharon and I just had? I'm on a working vacation for 3 weeks in Cali and we've worked hard to get the schedule straight so I can work in the mornings at a coffee shop and then head back to the house to spend afternoons with the fam. However, I am taking a week off, July 13-18 while we are in Huntington Beach. uh, were you listening in to the conversation Sharon and I just had? I'm on a working vacation for 3 weeks in Cali and we've worked hard to get the schedule straight so I can work in the mornings at a coffee shop and then head back to the house to spend afternoons with the fam. However, I am taking a week off, July 13-18 while we are in Huntington Beach.

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41443 human3rror Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:08:05 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41443 yes, freelancers... like you! yes, freelancers… like you!

]]> By: Daniel http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41442 Daniel Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:51:59 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41442 I deal with this a lot, I get IMs from clients all the time whenever I'm just browsing the internet. I think this is probably the worst for freelancers, who spends ALL their time on their computers but only a percentage of it working. I deal with this a lot, I get IMs from clients all the time whenever I'm just browsing the internet. I think this is probably the worst for freelancers, who spends ALL their time on their computers but only a percentage of it working.

]]> By: Jay http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41441 Jay Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:45:20 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41441 This is a great post. It's easier for me being an IT Director to mingle personal and business together, largely for the same reasons John points out. If we're doing a Gotomeeting presentation and one guy is doing his thing, I'm usually off doing something else and then shutting down apps when it's my turn to share my screen. With my wife becoming more geeky than ever, she uses Twitter and Facebook quite a bit to communicate with friends so it's not uncommon for us both to be online at the same time. What we try to do though (especially since we have kids) is take out that time to spend with each other. Wednesday is family night. From the time dinner is over until the time the kids go to bed, we just hang together doing whatever. The good thing is, because I have access to it most of the day, it makes it easier to turn such things off after work if I need to. This is a great post. It's easier for me being an IT Director to mingle personal and business together, largely for the same reasons John points out. If we're doing a Gotomeeting presentation and one guy is doing his thing, I'm usually off doing something else and then shutting down apps when it's my turn to share my screen.

With my wife becoming more geeky than ever, she uses Twitter and Facebook quite a bit to communicate with friends so it's not uncommon for us both to be online at the same time.

What we try to do though (especially since we have kids) is take out that time to spend with each other. Wednesday is family night. From the time dinner is over until the time the kids go to bed, we just hang together doing whatever.

The good thing is, because I have access to it most of the day, it makes it easier to turn such things off after work if I need to.

]]> By: fmckinnon http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41440 fmckinnon Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:00:08 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41440 my very great pleasure, my friend! my very great pleasure, my friend!

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41439 human3rror Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:58:06 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41439 Gabe,<br /><br />thanks for joining in! i know that you would know this personally... PK. word.<br /><br />thanks man! Gabe,

thanks for joining in! i know that you would know this personally… PK. word.

thanks man!

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41438 human3rror Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:55:06 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41438 Fred...<br />LOVE this.<br /><br />the discussion part is HUGE. have to talk about it... over and over and over again.<br /><br />dude. thanks for that. Fred…
LOVE this.

the discussion part is HUGE. have to talk about it… over and over and over again.

dude. thanks for that.

]]> By: fmckinnon http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41437 fmckinnon Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:35:02 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41437 OH YEAH, I feel ya big time. I live in that constantly. It's especially a problem if/when you are ever presented with the "how much time do you spend on our work versus your hobby/agenda" question ... and you start thinking about how much of your true, authentic "work" easily bleeds over into, enhances, and even prospers something you may be doing on your own ... and vice versa. Case in point - blogging. I've written FredMcKinnon.Com posts on what some would consider "church time". they are usually about worship. The results I get empower and educate me more as a worship leader, yet they also develop my personal blog and brand. I benefit personally from this, yet my church benefits from the wisdom and increased understanding I get from the community. Not to mention, my blog is typically the #1 referrer (outside of google or facebook) to our church's web presence. That's just one of many, many examples. I could go on all day. In my world, you have that discussion over and over, and depth and length with your potential employers, BEFORE you say 'yes' to a job. I certainly did, and I'm glad. OH YEAH, I feel ya big time. I live in that constantly. It's especially a problem if/when you are ever presented with the "how much time do you spend on our work versus your hobby/agenda" question … and you start thinking about how much of your true, authentic "work" easily bleeds over into, enhances, and even prospers something you may be doing on your own … and vice versa.

Case in point – blogging.
I've written FredMcKinnon.Com posts on what some would consider "church time". they are usually about worship. The results I get empower and educate me more as a worship leader, yet they also develop my personal blog and brand.

I benefit personally from this, yet my church benefits from the wisdom and increased understanding I get from the community. Not to mention, my blog is typically the #1 referrer (outside of google or facebook) to our church's web presence.

That's just one of many, many examples. I could go on all day. In my world, you have that discussion over and over, and depth and length with your potential employers, BEFORE you say 'yes' to a job. I certainly did, and I'm glad.

]]> By: gabehoffman http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41436 gabehoffman Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:14:58 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41436 Growing up as the son of a founding pastor of a church, I know this isn't a new issue or even about technology, I'm seeing this issue as both the kid that grew up in it and the father that is now living it. I totally am right with you. I think what got me through it and makes me think that this isn't an unhealthy thing (obviously there is a balance) is that my Dad was able to take me into his world and make me feel a part of it, or at least understand it, and I think if I can do that some with my kids and what I love to do, it will keep that connection and not make it seem like I am choosing one over the other. I think the last thing you want to do is make sound like you are having to choose. Yes family comes first and you gotta read your wife's queue's on if you are out of balance, but being able to bring them along with you on your journey's, I think (and we'll see) is an important thing. But I a agree with dewde, the intersection of passion and occupation is the recipe for incredible creative potential. Growing up as the son of a founding pastor of a church, I know this isn't a new issue or even about technology, I'm seeing this issue as both the kid that grew up in it and the father that is now living it. I totally am right with you. I think what got me through it and makes me think that this isn't an unhealthy thing (obviously there is a balance) is that my Dad was able to take me into his world and make me feel a part of it, or at least understand it, and I think if I can do that some with my kids and what I love to do, it will keep that connection and not make it seem like I am choosing one over the other. I think the last thing you want to do is make sound like you are having to choose. Yes family comes first and you gotta read your wife's queue's on if you are out of balance, but being able to bring them along with you on your journey's, I think (and we'll see) is an important thing.
But I a agree with dewde, the intersection of passion and occupation is the recipe for incredible creative potential.

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/the-challenge-of-occupational-and-recreational-boundaries/#comment-41435 human3rror Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:02:04 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/07/01/the-challenge-of-occupation-and-recreation-boundaries/#comment-41435 PUAHA! true dat. PUAHA! true dat.

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