Comments on: Seth Godin Trips Me Out with Semantics

By: kkcoolj

kkcoolj — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:14:41 +0000

Well, all I can say is that you impress me *and* you've made a good impression.

By: human3rror

human3rror — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:21:42 +0000

of course it does. i've heard my fair share of sermons that suck. even more at seminary.

making a good impression is not the same as impressing someone, in my book.

By: kkcoolj

kkcoolj — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:17:59 +0000

John, there's making a good impression, and then there's totin' around some *BLING BLING*.

I think your point is that under the former category, there's a w-i-d-e spectrum and you're just wanting to be on the dress to impress side, but not toooo out there.

Have you ever heard a sermon where you remember the gimmick or prop, but have no clue what the sermon was about? That's basically the same thing as a completely unremarkable sermon. The best case scenario is that awesome metaphors / props are used so that the familiar becomes unfamiliar and through that the message becomes memorable and in the future, the actual device takes on new meaning forever.

Does that makes sense to you?

By: human3rror

human3rror — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:01:05 +0000

Yup. He's been here a few times before… he's a good guy.

By: kkcoolj

kkcoolj — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:53:59 +0000

I just got my Tribes hardcopy and just downloaded the audioversion (free!) this week. When I mentioned it to a friend, they said they finished Tribes and that Seth Godin is clearly NOT Xtian – even pointing to the Christian tribe as being committed to a myth…

Is this true? Wonder if Seth would comment. If that is the case, I'm am surprised how much he seems to interact with church leaders…

By: Bill Bolte

Bill Bolte — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:40:27 +0000

I think I'm going to have to take John's side in this. I think a good design can enhance the story, maybe subtly, but its still having an affect. It can have an affect in the same way that a bad or even the wrong design can detract from the story. Maybe it has to do with having the correct design for the story. So then, I guess, I kind of agree with Seth. Now I'm confused on who I agree with?

By: Phillip Gibb

Phillip Gibb — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:57:17 +0000

very cool – especially since I am reading his book Tribes.
and I love this Tribe, lead on John – we are with you

By: David Park

David Park — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:29:53 +0000

good discussion. jerry seinfeld once said something to the effect that even if you're famous, people only give you 90 seconds of grace if your act isn't that funny. so in short, the appeal will only get you so far.
i think that good design can help "direct traffic", so to speak, but it isn't necessarily the draw. unless it is as john proposes, part of the whole. which i think is an emerging trend, but not the dominant one, which is where i think godin is coming from.
i think that slick design also has a reverse effect when it is ubiquitous, meaning that i think people get suspicious when design is TOO good, if you know what i mean.

By: Andy_Darnell

Andy_Darnell — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:32:07 +0000

I'm surrounded by designers on a daily basis, and could probably get them to overhaul my site (probably should). I am not overly concerned (at the moment) with the site design. I do want to write compelling content. I understand the possible reach that it may have to those searching for "Snow in Atlanta on April 7th." The fact that I got indexed in less than 6 hours and found because of a random search is exciting. When they get to the site, I want them to see authentic love for my Creator. I want them to see the passion that I have for Jesus.

Just trying to build my little tribe.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:38:30 +0000

i love it when Uncle Seth visits!