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	<title>Comments on: One Thing that Churches Can Learn From Google and Apple</title>
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		<title>By: Rodlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true. I think it&#039;s a wait and see game for now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true. I think it&#8217;s a wait and see game for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rodlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I suppose there could be more than one thing. Maybe ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I suppose there could be more than one thing. Maybe <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Bateman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s too early to verdict on GVoice or Wave. Mostly because the early adopters (in the case of Wave) MUST have others to make it work. So we get a case of slow growth because it takes a long time for people to catch on.

Once we hit critical mass, I think both of those services (or their grandchildren) will be seen as tremendous successes, if not immediately.
In terms of success, think Emily Dickinson, not the Eragon guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s too early to verdict on GVoice or Wave. Mostly because the early adopters (in the case of Wave) MUST have others to make it work. So we get a case of slow growth because it takes a long time for people to catch on.</p>
<p>Once we hit critical mass, I think both of those services (or their grandchildren) will be seen as tremendous successes, if not immediately.<br />
In terms of success, think Emily Dickinson, not the Eragon guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Five &#171; NeilTullos.com</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/one-thing-that-churches-can-learn-from-google-and-apple/#comment-30986</link>
		<dc:creator>Friday Five &#171; NeilTullos.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One Thing That Churches Can Learn From Google and Apple [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Scott Magdalein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Magdalein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One&quot; thing? ;)

Churches definitely need to learn how to fail like a champ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One&#8221; thing? <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Churches definitely need to learn how to fail like a champ.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Shoemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Shoemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reminder to have a fail forward mentality- it&#039;s ok to fail, as long as you genuinely learn something from it. Thanks Rodlie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reminder to have a fail forward mentality- it&#8217;s ok to fail, as long as you genuinely learn something from it. Thanks Rodlie!</p>
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		<title>By: danielcberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>danielcberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should look similar, absolutely! I think the big challenge is that we have forgotten what creativity is and what it means to apply that creativity to real world challenges. And yes, we are afraid of failure; I can testify it&#039;s a big time issue in my own life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should look similar, absolutely! I think the big challenge is that we have forgotten what creativity is and what it means to apply that creativity to real world challenges. And yes, we are afraid of failure; I can testify it&#8217;s a big time issue in my own life.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Barner</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/one-thing-that-churches-can-learn-from-google-and-apple/#comment-30982</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Barner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I thought the first comment didn&#039;t take. Please feel free to delete or disreguard the above comment. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I thought the first comment didn&#8217;t take. Please feel free to delete or disreguard the above comment. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mason Stanley</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/one-thing-that-churches-can-learn-from-google-and-apple/#comment-30981</link>
		<dc:creator>Mason Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology is organic.  By that I mean it is ever changing, ever growing.  When I was in middle school we bought a NEC computer from Best Buy which had something like 5 GB&#039;s of space on it (i can&#039;t remember the exact ammount, all I knew is I could play Duke Nukem on it).  They young sales guy confidently told my parents that we could never fill this hard drive; I currently have over 5 GB&#039;s of podcast on my ipod!

The point is, google and apple are trying to set the market trends, they are trying to predict where the market is headed, what is on the rise, and what is on the decline.  While Apple is leading the way in technology, Google takes products, and tries to create better products.  I often times get upset with Google for not promoting their products enough, but the reason I believe (more like assume) they don&#039;t, is because they are still trying to get a feel for the want and the desire of the market.  

When programers create new software for the market, they use a system known as Iterative and incremental development.  Meaning, they test a little bit of their product at a time, learn its issues and needs before launching it on a much larger scale, thus decreasing the oppertunity for final product failure (think soft launches for church plants)  Churches should be willing to fail, but they should also take these lessons from Apple and Google.  Attempt to picture where your surrounding culture is headed and constantly review and improve your &quot;product.&quot;  Google aspires to be more than just a search engine, this is why google is a verb and yahoo is a dusty book mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is organic.  By that I mean it is ever changing, ever growing.  When I was in middle school we bought a NEC computer from Best Buy which had something like 5 GB&#8217;s of space on it (i can&#8217;t remember the exact ammount, all I knew is I could play Duke Nukem on it).  They young sales guy confidently told my parents that we could never fill this hard drive; I currently have over 5 GB&#8217;s of podcast on my ipod!</p>
<p>The point is, google and apple are trying to set the market trends, they are trying to predict where the market is headed, what is on the rise, and what is on the decline.  While Apple is leading the way in technology, Google takes products, and tries to create better products.  I often times get upset with Google for not promoting their products enough, but the reason I believe (more like assume) they don&#8217;t, is because they are still trying to get a feel for the want and the desire of the market.  </p>
<p>When programers create new software for the market, they use a system known as Iterative and incremental development.  Meaning, they test a little bit of their product at a time, learn its issues and needs before launching it on a much larger scale, thus decreasing the oppertunity for final product failure (think soft launches for church plants)  Churches should be willing to fail, but they should also take these lessons from Apple and Google.  Attempt to picture where your surrounding culture is headed and constantly review and improve your &#8220;product.&#8221;  Google aspires to be more than just a search engine, this is why google is a verb and yahoo is a dusty book mark.</p>
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		<title>By: brett barner</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/one-thing-that-churches-can-learn-from-google-and-apple/#comment-30980</link>
		<dc:creator>brett barner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Rodlie. You kind of forget the amount of failures Google has had. They still are competitive and have an Aaliyah &quot;Try Again&quot; type attitude towards failure.

I see a strong relation to Microsoft who has become such a slow nervous giant who has lost the nerve to innovate. I see that with the church. We&#039;ve had our share of Vistas and Zunes in the church that we are afraid to take chances. 

Great thoughts, Rodlie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Rodlie. You kind of forget the amount of failures Google has had. They still are competitive and have an Aaliyah &#8220;Try Again&#8221; type attitude towards failure.</p>
<p>I see a strong relation to Microsoft who has become such a slow nervous giant who has lost the nerve to innovate. I see that with the church. We&#8217;ve had our share of Vistas and Zunes in the church that we are afraid to take chances. </p>
<p>Great thoughts, Rodlie!</p>
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