Comments on: My Wheelbarrow of Patience – Part 2 http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:32:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Connections Are Everywhere, Intentionality is Not | Church Mag http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-52008 Connections Are Everywhere, Intentionality is Not | Church Mag Tue, 17 May 2011 20:51:43 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-52008 [...] The connection was furthered when I shared that proposal with Graham Brenna after leaving a comment in a blog entry he wrote for [...] [...] The connection was furthered when I shared that proposal with Graham Brenna after leaving a comment in a blog entry he wrote for [...]

]]> By: Check These Out [4/11/09] (GBrenna.com) http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46261 Check These Out [4/11/09] (GBrenna.com) Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:10:51 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46261 [...] My Wheelbarrow of Patience - Part 2 - The second part of my guest post on ChurchCrunch! [...] [...] My Wheelbarrow of Patience – Part 2 – The second part of my guest post on ChurchCrunch! [...]

]]> By: jaycaruso http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46260 jaycaruso Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:27:39 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46260 "the inherent thing about social media is that it transcends the boundaries of the local church. " Perfectly said. "the inherent thing about social media is that it transcends the boundaries of the local church. "

Perfectly said.

]]> By: Graham Brenna http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46259 Graham Brenna Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:20:10 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46259 I like that quote... I manage a volunteer staff of about 35+ people. Only a handful of them go above and beyond without me asking them to. Weekend worship is much easier when that handful is on the schedule :) I like that quote… I manage a volunteer staff of about 35+ people. Only a handful of them go above and beyond without me asking them to. Weekend worship is much easier when that handful is on the schedule :)

]]> By: Phillip Gibb http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46258 Phillip Gibb Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:13:11 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46258 Yeah, trying to 'replace myself', just not easy finding someone willing to put in the (after)hours during the week. Busy reading the Google Story by David A. Vise, in it there is this phrase by Larry Page: "You should try to do things most people would not." Guess that that could be a wheelbarrow breaking philosophy. If I could win volunteers over into that sort of mindset then the so-called 'impossible' would be fun. Of course, while remembering nothing is impossible with God. Yeah, trying to 'replace myself', just not easy finding someone willing to put in the (after)hours during the week.

Busy reading the Google Story by David A. Vise, in it there is this phrase by Larry Page: "You should try to do things most people would not." Guess that that could be a wheelbarrow breaking philosophy.
If I could win volunteers over into that sort of mindset then the so-called 'impossible' would be fun. Of course, while remembering nothing is impossible with God.

]]> By: Graham Brenna http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46257 Graham Brenna Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:56:10 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46257 You have a "wake up call" button?!?! Does it resemble the "EASY" button? haha. I totally understand the video thing. I'm the guy who produces about 90% of our videos as well. I'm actually trying to do less of that even though I love it. I'm working with a volunteer to build a volunteer based video production team! We want to become a little more "professional" with our productions and if I were to do it all alone... like you said, it is just way too much effort. I'm also trying to get our congregation on Twitter. It's happening... slowly. I've started putting my twitter URL and my blog's URL in the signature of my emails. Hang in there man... good to know other's are having the same slow responses as I am. There is a light at the end of the tunnel! You have a "wake up call" button?!?! Does it resemble the "EASY" button? haha.

I totally understand the video thing. I'm the guy who produces about 90% of our videos as well. I'm actually trying to do less of that even though I love it. I'm working with a volunteer to build a volunteer based video production team! We want to become a little more "professional" with our productions and if I were to do it all alone… like you said, it is just way too much effort.

I'm also trying to get our congregation on Twitter. It's happening… slowly. I've started putting my twitter URL and my blog's URL in the signature of my emails. Hang in there man… good to know other's are having the same slow responses as I am.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

]]> By: Phillip Gibb http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46256 Phillip Gibb Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:21:49 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46256 I don't think I have a problem convincing our church about social media. The big wheel barrows we have is volunteer overload and adoption or buy in by the general congregation to participate - but then that is very short sighted because the inherent thing about social media is that it transcends the boundaries of the local church. Personally when it come to video (being the guy that does 90% of the video at church) I find myself hamstrung because we don't have enough content and the push is to use the stuff provided by out partner church. I hate that because I cant to do independent stuff that we can post all over - copyright free etc. But it is way way too much effort. You know I still find people at church asking what twitter is. Only 3 people in my community group (11 in total) don't do twitter - he he we are a progressive group. But most people don't seem to understand the hooHa in twitter and facebook and other social networking efforts. I see this evidence in the number of people that view and participate in the church blogs and FB pages. Sometimes I wonder what the point is. Sometimes I want to press the button that says "wake up Call" I don't think I have a problem convincing our church about social media. The big wheel barrows we have is volunteer overload and adoption or buy in by the general congregation to participate – but then that is very short sighted because the inherent thing about social media is that it transcends the boundaries of the local church.

Personally when it come to video (being the guy that does 90% of the video at church) I find myself hamstrung because we don't have enough content and the push is to use the stuff provided by out partner church. I hate that because I cant to do independent stuff that we can post all over – copyright free etc. But it is way way too much effort.

You know I still find people at church asking what twitter is. Only 3 people in my community group (11 in total) don't do twitter – he he we are a progressive group. But most people don't seem to understand the hooHa in twitter and facebook and other social networking efforts. I see this evidence in the number of people that view and participate in the church blogs and FB pages. Sometimes I wonder what the point is. Sometimes I want to press the button that says "wake up Call"

]]> By: jaycaruso http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46255 jaycaruso Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:14:55 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46255 I'd be happy to send it to you. Oh and I'm not even a staff member. I'm just a volunteer representing what I see is the outside world looking in. Granted, I have a good relationship with the leaders so it's not like I'm just some guy out there they don't know, but it's more challenging because I'm not there to push this on them on a more regular basis. I'd be happy to send it to you. Oh and I'm not even a staff member. I'm just a volunteer representing what I see is the outside world looking in. Granted, I have a good relationship with the leaders so it's not like I'm just some guy out there they don't know, but it's more challenging because I'm not there to push this on them on a more regular basis.

]]> By: Graham Brenna http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46254 Graham Brenna Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:02:20 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46254 I hear ya man. I bet that felt good to type?! I'd love to see the document you wrote up that you sent to your fellow staffers. My email is graham [at] gbrenna [dot] com. Perhaps we can learn from each other and discuss what works and what doesn't? I hear ya man. I bet that felt good to type?! I'd love to see the document you wrote up that you sent to your fellow staffers. My email is graham [at] gbrenna [dot] com.

Perhaps we can learn from each other and discuss what works and what doesn't?

]]> By: jaycaruso http://churchm.ag/my-wheelbarrow-of-patience-part-2/#comment-46253 jaycaruso Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:46:24 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=4010#comment-46253 I feel your pain. Over the last several months I have seen how social media has been such a boon for Christian ministry and trying to convince the leadership at my church to get with it has been a struggle. What's more frustrating is that out of the four full-time Pastors our church has on staff, three of them are under the age of 40. One would think getting them caught up on social media would be easy, but it hasn't been. Three of the Pastors have blogs. Only the main pastor's blog is the one I read. The other two built it around the ministry they oversee instead of around themselves and as such, the content is very stale. They're missing the boat and it's frustrating. They're getting ready to send out 30,000 mailers around the city for our Easter Services. We did the same thing for Christmas and yet attendance only went up a nominal percentage over regular services and that's largely because it was Christmas. I suspect most people do with mailers like that what I do with them - throw them in the recycling bin or the trash. I just recently (within the last two weeks) submitted a proposal to our leadership to kind of wake them up a little to the opportunities we're missing by ignoring social media as a ministry tool. Rather than throwing a whole bunch of stuff at them in an email, I prepared a document laying out the steps I feel need to be taken, to improving our website with more images and video to getting the church to embrace social media (explaining with hard numbers the growth of Facebook and Twitter) as another outlet for ministry and as a successful tool for marketing. The best part about using social media is that it is by and large FREE. It was very well received. The question is: Will they be willing to jump in? I feel your pain. Over the last several months I have seen how social media has been such a boon for Christian ministry and trying to convince the leadership at my church to get with it has been a struggle. What's more frustrating is that out of the four full-time Pastors our church has on staff, three of them are under the age of 40. One would think getting them caught up on social media would be easy, but it hasn't been. Three of the Pastors have blogs. Only the main pastor's blog is the one I read. The other two built it around the ministry they oversee instead of around themselves and as such, the content is very stale.

They're missing the boat and it's frustrating. They're getting ready to send out 30,000 mailers around the city for our Easter Services. We did the same thing for Christmas and yet attendance only went up a nominal percentage over regular services and that's largely because it was Christmas. I suspect most people do with mailers like that what I do with them – throw them in the recycling bin or the trash.

I just recently (within the last two weeks) submitted a proposal to our leadership to kind of wake them up a little to the opportunities we're missing by ignoring social media as a ministry tool. Rather than throwing a whole bunch of stuff at them in an email, I prepared a document laying out the steps I feel need to be taken, to improving our website with more images and video to getting the church to embrace social media (explaining with hard numbers the growth of Facebook and Twitter) as another outlet for ministry and as a successful tool for marketing. The best part about using social media is that it is by and large FREE.

It was very well received. The question is: Will they be willing to jump in?

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