Comments on: Ministry and E-Coaching: What You Do When You Can’t Hold a Regular Job

By: RWR

RWR — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:20:58 +0000

Killer! I gotta get me an avatar or something. Blank face not cool ;-D

By: Matthew Daniel

Matthew Daniel — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:11:32 +0000

Just thought I'd re-affirm what you wrote. Outside of my ministry stuff, I'm a full-time training and development professional. My team works in a completely virtual environment (we don't have good tools for it, though), because most of us work from home all over the country. Training and development professionals have been doing a version of e-coaching for over 5 years, thought it's changed with time. I'd be interested to find out what communication tools Los and Tony use for communication other than email, phone, and reading a book together.

I'm in favor of you guys being paid for your work. It's over and above your job responsibilities at the office – and time is money. If it's going to require you to spend less time with your family, there's got to be a premium on it. I do everything for my church for free, but other organizations have asked me for help outside of my full-time job and I always give them an hourly rate. Sometimes that rate is higher and sometimes that rate is lower based on where the organization is – but my time is worth dollars. So is yours!

By: human3rror

human3rror — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:48 +0000

unsure since I'm not pursuing it at this time… but, i could promise awesomeness…!

By: RWR

RWR — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:58:27 +0000

Just curious, what would your coaching include??

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:43:30 +0000

I'm coaching someone for free now. I'll probably seek some coaching in the near future.

By: chrishill

chrishill — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:20:10 +0000

Tony Morgan's current coaching network was $1200. Not only is it worth it for Tony's detailed personal coaching that goes well beyond the blog or book, but it's given me the opportunity to learn from 11 other ministry guys with various backgrounds, experience, work styles, etc. Those relationships have been super important for someone like me who's new to this ministry thing.

John, if you're considering this: From my personal experience, the group chosen by the "coach" is very important to the health and overall experience. The more diverse the group, the better.

By: stephenbateman

stephenbateman — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:08:07 +0000

I think it's worth it to pay for experience.

Tim Stevens is one of the best at what he does, and an hour of his time is very valuable. An alternative to straight one-on-one time is more of an aggregate approach, like Backstage Leadership (I'm a participant, not a proponent).

Less time with A-Listers, but also less $$ and more variety.

By: klreed189

klreed189 — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:59:32 +0000

I think it is a great opportunity. I would be in with Los if I had money to spend on that. But I really don't have a job and a church to pay for me to go to these coaching networks.
I think it is a great idea and a great way to learn with each other.
My dad is a health coach and is in pretty high demand from a lot of different companies. He has had a lot of training on "how to" coach. Asking the right questions, the process, etc…I think this is very important to have the experience and training. I understand these guys that are consider "professionals" in their area of ministry or coaching, but coming together to meet and learn is important and I would want a coach that is trained and is working through ideas on where they are taking the training sessions.
From what I hear from friends and see online, it seems like Carlos and Tony are doing a great job at that.

I just got into doing some coaching. I am not charging anything. Really I just see it as a chance to be a resource to friends and others who want to talk about ideas, music, ministry, or whatever. I just want to make myself available to others because I feel like I am a sponge at times and want to get the word out on great resources that I find or hear about.
John I think you should go for the coaching idea. You could really help out some churches that are looking to develop online community and an online campus.

By: Graham Brenna

Graham Brenna — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:58:44 +0000

I'd be in the supportive camp. I've met Tony Morgan when he did his road trip and stopped in Aurora, IL. It was reasonably priced ($30) and I learned a lot!

By: human3rror

human3rror — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:28:04 +0000

word. sometimes someone can't “hold a job” because that's exactly what God has asked them to do: Somethign else.