Comments on: Is Your Ministry Trying to Catch Up or Just Copy? http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:25:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Phillip Gibb http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34473 Phillip Gibb Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:53:18 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34473 :) :)

]]> By: bondChristian http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34472 bondChristian Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:50:34 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34472 Yes, open source all the way. I think the closedness comes from a deeper problem in many congregations. It's not just code we don't like to give away. It's anything. We've got this competitive mindset between chapels... what's up with that? Since when are we to compete? I like this post and the comments here because they highlight two sides: 1) trying to copy and 2) trying to close off to stay unique. Both are extremes that should be avoided. -Marshall Jones Jr. Yes, open source all the way. I think the closedness comes from a deeper problem in many congregations. It's not just code we don't like to give away. It's anything. We've got this competitive mindset between chapels… what's up with that? Since when are we to compete?

I like this post and the comments here because they highlight two sides: 1) trying to copy and 2) trying to close off to stay unique. Both are extremes that should be avoided.

-Marshall Jones Jr.

]]> By: Graham Brenna http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34471 Graham Brenna Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:07:39 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34471 Good point here. So my question is this; Having just purchased a cloversite... which as you know looks sorta virtually the same as any other cloversite church. Does that mean I'm copying instead of creating myself? Our communications team and I met and decided to go with a cloversite because of the simplicity and the use of negative space to "create space in our lives" which is what the church is called to do... not clutter it. (ahem... Kem Meyer... :) ). There aren't any other churches in our area that are using a cloversite so when you search for churches in our area... our site will be "different", even though it's the same as other cloversites. So that's not exactly a question but more me justifying our upcoming move to a cloversite. Thoughts on this ChurchCrunch peeps? Good point here. So my question is this; Having just purchased a cloversite… which as you know looks sorta virtually the same as any other cloversite church. Does that mean I'm copying instead of creating myself? Our communications team and I met and decided to go with a cloversite because of the simplicity and the use of negative space to "create space in our lives" which is what the church is called to do… not clutter it. (ahem… Kem Meyer… :) ). There aren't any other churches in our area that are using a cloversite so when you search for churches in our area… our site will be "different", even though it's the same as other cloversites.

So that's not exactly a question but more me justifying our upcoming move to a cloversite. Thoughts on this ChurchCrunch peeps?

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34470 human3rror Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:07:04 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34470 i don't mind giving away code at all. i do have a problem if they dont change out any of the graphics, including the logo... i don't mind giving away code at all. i do have a problem if they dont change out any of the graphics, including the logo…

]]> By: Rob Lombardi http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34467 Rob Lombardi Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:29:05 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34467 The message of the gospel is already unique. The church just needs to focus on making the website usable, and filling it with content that ministers to the hearts of the people under their care. Focus on truth, and teaching the truth and tailor the website to make those goals possible for the web; which for me includes being able to communicate the truth easily from our website to feed readers, social websites, etc. I created our church website in a little over a month with very little background experience. It's not the greatest looking site, but it has the functionality our little church plant needs and it's ministering in a way that's appropriate for us. www.veritascc.org The message of the gospel is already unique. The church just needs to focus on making the website usable, and filling it with content that ministers to the hearts of the people under their care. Focus on truth, and teaching the truth and tailor the website to make those goals possible for the web; which for me includes being able to communicate the truth easily from our website to feed readers, social websites, etc.

I created our church website in a little over a month with very little background experience. It's not the greatest looking site, but it has the functionality our little church plant needs and it's ministering in a way that's appropriate for us. http://www.veritascc.org

]]> By: Jeff http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34469 Jeff Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:49:38 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34469 I actually find it more sad that Churches hold onto their code. I would love to see an open sourcing movement for Church technology. I actually find it more sad that Churches hold onto their code. I would love to see an open sourcing movement for Church technology.

]]> By: Mike http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34468 Mike Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:45:15 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34468 We need to be listening to God and seeking out his vision for the church, instead of trying to hijack what someone else is doing. Unfortunately, it's not easy. It takes us humbling ourselves before God in prayer, it takes time, and it can even take pain to bring us to the point when we are ready to listen. Everyone wants a quick fix, but imagine what it would be like if churches everywhere truly operated in the power of the Holy Spirit. We can at least dream :-) We need to be listening to God and seeking out his vision for the church, instead of trying to hijack what someone else is doing. Unfortunately, it's not easy. It takes us humbling ourselves before God in prayer, it takes time, and it can even take pain to bring us to the point when we are ready to listen. Everyone wants a quick fix, but imagine what it would be like if churches everywhere truly operated in the power of the Holy Spirit. We can at least dream :-)

]]> By: Phillip Gibb http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34450 Phillip Gibb Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:08:37 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34450 Great points!! Have you ever heard of the term by Edward de Bono : Sur/Petition - creating value monopolies when everyone else is merely competing So instead of trying to copy or improve on what others are doing - don't leap frog; head in a new direction. Great points!!
Have you ever heard of the term by Edward de Bono : Sur/Petition – creating value monopolies when everyone else is merely competing
So instead of trying to copy or improve on what others are doing – don't leap frog; head in a new direction.

]]> By: Konrad http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34448 Konrad Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:42:26 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34448 Very nicely stated. Especially since we are all one Body, the goal should always be one: See Christ lifted high and glorified, so that every man, woman, and child may hear the good news. Very nicely stated. Especially since we are all one Body, the goal should always be one: See Christ lifted high and glorified, so that every man, woman, and child may hear the good news.

]]> By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/is-your-ministry-trying-to-catch-up-or-just-copy/#comment-34466 human3rror Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:54:05 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7153#comment-34466 yeah, pretty much. <br /><br />we're all shadows of something.... :) yeah, pretty much.

we're all shadows of something…. :)

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