Comments on: How Hot Pockets Teach Us About Media and the Church http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nate Beaird http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23213 Nate Beaird Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:16:45 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23213 You make some very thought-provoking points here, Gatorguy. Me and my generation would be wise to listen if we want to really connect with you the way you say you want to connect with us! Thanks so much for your comments, I really feel like it brought depth to this entire post! Thanks again! You make some very thought-provoking points here, Gatorguy. Me and my generation would be wise to listen if we want to really connect with you the way you say you want to connect with us!

Thanks so much for your comments, I really feel like it brought depth to this entire post! Thanks again!

]]> By: gatorguy http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23212 gatorguy Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:43:13 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23212 Your generation can help us with the learning curve by recognizing that many of us really want to learn new things and produce a higher quality of communication in what we do. Be patient with us. You grew up with a computer in your hand, but for us 60 year-olds, it's new and changing all the time. There was a time when I led the way in technology (overhead projectors and choruses on the wall) in my particular movement, but things have come a long way since then. I still want to lead the way in doing my ministry, but I realize I need to keep learning and growing right along with its demands. You asked me "what grinds our gears when it comes to my generation and ministry?" Believe me when I say that I am committed to connecting with your generation. I feel new life when I am around younger men and women engaged in life. But I can also sense when I'm being viewed as a relic without opportunity for input. The assumption is often made that since we are older, we have nothing viable to contribute to the emerging generation's quest for significance. Just understand that we, too, once faced the uphill battle of trying to connect with an older generation who didn't want to let loose of their paradigms and programs. I understand that feeling well. In a perfect world, the baton of experience is passed to energy and vitality. While my section of the race isn't quite over, I welcome the premise of an intergenerational team effort. Your generation can help us with the learning curve by recognizing that many of us really want to learn new things and produce a higher quality of communication in what we do. Be patient with us. You grew up with a computer in your hand, but for us 60 year-olds, it’s new and changing all the time.

There was a time when I led the way in technology (overhead projectors and choruses on the wall) in my particular movement, but things have come a long way since then. I still want to lead the way in doing my ministry, but I realize I need to keep learning and growing right along with its demands.

You asked me “what grinds our gears when it comes to my generation and ministry?”

Believe me when I say that I am committed to connecting with your generation. I feel new life when I am around younger men and women engaged in life. But I can also sense when I’m being viewed as a relic without opportunity for input. The assumption is often made that since we are older, we have nothing viable to contribute to the emerging generation’s quest for significance. Just understand that we, too, once faced the uphill battle of trying to connect with an older generation who didn’t want to let loose of their paradigms and programs. I understand that feeling well.

In a perfect world, the baton of experience is passed to energy and vitality. While my section of the race isn’t quite over, I welcome the premise of an intergenerational team effort.

]]> By: Kyle Reed http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23211 Kyle Reed Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:08:50 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23211 great point, i like that idea great point, i like that idea

]]> By: Nate Beaird http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23210 Nate Beaird Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:36:58 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23210 Wow, that's great insight from you and your generation! How do you think we (the younger) can help with the learning curve? Are there ways you see ministry can be more effective, but don't have the technical know-how to do it? What grinds your gears when it comes to my generation and ministry? Wow, that’s great insight from you and your generation!

How do you think we (the younger) can help with the learning curve?

Are there ways you see ministry can be more effective, but don’t have the technical know-how to do it?

What grinds your gears when it comes to my generation and ministry?

]]> By: gatorguy http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23209 gatorguy Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:21:27 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23209 I hear a lot of talk about the alleged chasm that exists between my generation and the present emerging generation. I do not believe that my generation is actively trying to repel the effects of emergent change. Rather, most of us welcome innovative ideas that raise the quality of what we do and how we do it. My parents' generation was truly stuck in the mud with no prospect of breaking from tradition. I am a boomer--you know, the guys that kicked the sides out of the box in the sixties. If there is a gap between our generations, it is reflected in our learning curve. It's not that we reject what's coming down the pike, it's simply a matter of learning to think more technical--like my sons and their friends. I like what my son has taught me--twitter, facebook, blogging, etc. However, let me be quick to point out, I have always considered myself to be savvy in terms of innovative ways to do the work of ministry. Now, I welcome a new learning curve as I enter a whole new foray into the world of technological expression. I hear a lot of talk about the alleged chasm that exists between my generation and the present emerging generation. I do not believe that my generation is actively trying to repel the effects of emergent change. Rather, most of us welcome innovative ideas that raise the quality of what we do and how we do it. My parents’ generation was truly stuck in the mud with no prospect of breaking from tradition. I am a boomer–you know, the guys that kicked the sides out of the box in the sixties. If there is a gap between our generations, it is reflected in our learning curve. It’s not that we reject what’s coming down the pike, it’s simply a matter of learning to think more technical–like my sons and their friends. I like what my son has taught me–twitter, facebook, blogging, etc. However, let me be quick to point out, I have always considered myself to be savvy in terms of innovative ways to do the work of ministry. Now, I welcome a new learning curve as I enter a whole new foray into the world of technological expression.

]]> By: Nate Beaird http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23208 Nate Beaird Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:20:58 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23208 Yeah, some really incredible stories came out of past generations! One thing that I've learned is that when we find a way to illustrate those stories using media, showing how God provided, healed, or Protected, they begin to see media as a viable resource/tool in the church. You've then honored their efforts, at the same time you've shown them a new ministry outlet and let it be their idea to get on board with it. Yeah, some really incredible stories came out of past generations! One thing that I’ve learned is that when we find a way to illustrate those stories using media, showing how God provided, healed, or Protected, they begin to see media as a viable resource/tool in the church.

You’ve then honored their efforts, at the same time you’ve shown them a new ministry outlet and let it be their idea to get on board with it.

]]> By: kylereed http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23207 kylereed Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:01:05 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23207 Huge connection there. I think you are on to something and this illustrates it very very well. Trying to explain to my grandpa what I have been doing for the last 8 months is like trying to explain to a 3 year old metaphysics. I think really the responsibility is on us, the youngens, to work with the generation that has come before us and continue to educate but also listen. Huge connection there. I think you are on to something and this illustrates it very very well.
Trying to explain to my grandpa what I have been doing for the last 8 months is like trying to explain to a 3 year old metaphysics.

I think really the responsibility is on us, the youngens, to work with the generation that has come before us and continue to educate but also listen.

]]> By: Nate Beaird http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23206 Nate Beaird Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:27:11 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23206 Word. Tony Morgan addressed this topic once... LINK: http://tonymorganlive.com/2010/01/08/is-dull-worship-the-goal/ Word. Tony Morgan addressed this topic once…

LINK: http://tonymorganlive.com/2010/01/08/is-dull-worship-the-goal/

]]> By: JayCaruso http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23205 JayCaruso Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:04:32 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23205 I remember hearing Mark Driscoll say that many churches are on "the cutting edge of 1949" with zero instruments and a guy that "wears a dress" doing the preaching. What is more important than anything else is the focus on the Gospel like you say. I see too many churches that get bogged down either by staying true to "real worship" which of course doesn't allow the use of amped guitars and drums (another thing Driscoll said was, "How can people say we can't use instruments that God will be handing out in heaven to worship Him here on earth?") but at the same time I see too many churches focusing on making their worship service into an hour or so of entertainment. Like you said, that balance is important. I remember hearing Mark Driscoll say that many churches are on “the cutting edge of 1949″ with zero instruments and a guy that “wears a dress” doing the preaching.

What is more important than anything else is the focus on the Gospel like you say. I see too many churches that get bogged down either by staying true to “real worship” which of course doesn’t allow the use of amped guitars and drums (another thing Driscoll said was, “How can people say we can’t use instruments that God will be handing out in heaven to worship Him here on earth?”) but at the same time I see too many churches focusing on making their worship service into an hour or so of entertainment.

Like you said, that balance is important.

]]> By: Nate Beaird http://churchm.ag/how-hot-pockets-teach-us-about-media-and-the-church/#comment-23204 Nate Beaird Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:31:20 +0000 http://churchcreate.com/?p=565#comment-23204 I don't know, I've heard some really bad sermons in "Young" services... haha... But you nailed it with one thing; the older generation has paid for (and probably built) the church buildings, providing a ministry in many neighborhoods, and they're not ready turn it over to a younger generation that is cynical of everything they've accomplished. Good thought! I don’t know, I’ve heard some really bad sermons in “Young” services… haha…

But you nailed it with one thing; the older generation has paid for (and probably built) the church buildings, providing a ministry in many neighborhoods, and they’re not ready turn it over to a younger generation that is cynical of everything they’ve accomplished.

Good thought!

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