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		<title>By: Storyteller</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-78132</link>
		<dc:creator>Storyteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess since zoecity.com now takes me to a GoDaddy.com parking page, we now know - as Paul Harvey likes to say - The rest of the story! Honestly, the problem with Christian aggregates is not the service providers, it&#039;s the disconnect between people who want to incorporate the practice of discipleship with the world system of making a buck off of anything that moves. People can&#039;t see or understand how I live as a Christian man and disciple of Jesus through a blog or a story, if they have no biblical context in their own life to contrast and compare it to. The real challenge in all this is to get every day people to sit down and read their bible so they can begin to relate to the very history of our own country. We have before us today a lost generation of people, many whom do not know the names of Billy Graham, D.L Moody, Billy Sunday, Lester Roloff, and Dr. Lee Roberson. These men were soldiers who surrendered their lives to Christ, but looking around today we are paupers in respect to finding leaders who are stepping forward to take the reins and shepherd people into the truth of God&#039;s Word. We are all too concerned about obtaining comfort to endure for the faith. I believe the next great revival will not be online, it will be when people tire of being plugged in and eventually desire the freedom to move beyond the stale resonance of the mind; which is the only thing exercised in the ethereal world. I blog in preparation for the time when people are looking for the exit sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess since zoecity.com now takes me to a GoDaddy.com parking page, we now know &#8211; as Paul Harvey likes to say &#8211; The rest of the story! Honestly, the problem with Christian aggregates is not the service providers, it&#8217;s the disconnect between people who want to incorporate the practice of discipleship with the world system of making a buck off of anything that moves. People can&#8217;t see or understand how I live as a Christian man and disciple of Jesus through a blog or a story, if they have no biblical context in their own life to contrast and compare it to. The real challenge in all this is to get every day people to sit down and read their bible so they can begin to relate to the very history of our own country. We have before us today a lost generation of people, many whom do not know the names of Billy Graham, D.L Moody, Billy Sunday, Lester Roloff, and Dr. Lee Roberson. These men were soldiers who surrendered their lives to Christ, but looking around today we are paupers in respect to finding leaders who are stepping forward to take the reins and shepherd people into the truth of God&#8217;s Word. We are all too concerned about obtaining comfort to endure for the faith. I believe the next great revival will not be online, it will be when people tire of being plugged in and eventually desire the freedom to move beyond the stale resonance of the mind; which is the only thing exercised in the ethereal world. I blog in preparation for the time when people are looking for the exit sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Storyteller</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-78129</link>
		<dc:creator>Storyteller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, we&#039;re about to enter January of 2012 - Doesn&#039;t seem like this idea went very far. Or maybe you&#039;ve been really busy making something happen? I can tell you this, today trying to find good content from other Christian sites is really like finding a needle in a haystack the size of Pluto! The real issue I think is keying on the mechanisms of the feed its self, which is key words. Christianity and Jesus are such non iconic terms today - especially in light of the profane usage in worldly social context. You search for Jesus and get some fool in Arkansas complaining about his ex-girlfriend, or a much worse explicative application. There are good Christian writers out there and they want to be found, there&#039;s got to be some way to aggregate feeds in a contextually relevant way - to eliminate the trailer trash from the garden of Eden. The real need  is to elaborate and collaborate on the purpose for emphasis on the disciple-ship aspects of our faith, namely the apologetic relationships each of us possesses in our testimony and life experience. We have neighbors we don&#039;t talk to because we&#039;re all to busy blogging to learn about each other and open the door for potential to escape the ethereal network which confines us to our carnal selves. The longing of our spirit cries to escape the endless plastic clicking, feverishly tickling, until the last ounce of energy is expended - captured by the ghost in the machine - and lost because the &quot;power went out before I could press STINKING RETURN KEY!&quot; Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Well that&#039;s my two-cents worth anywho!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, we&#8217;re about to enter January of 2012 &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t seem like this idea went very far. Or maybe you&#8217;ve been really busy making something happen? I can tell you this, today trying to find good content from other Christian sites is really like finding a needle in a haystack the size of Pluto! The real issue I think is keying on the mechanisms of the feed its self, which is key words. Christianity and Jesus are such non iconic terms today &#8211; especially in light of the profane usage in worldly social context. You search for Jesus and get some fool in Arkansas complaining about his ex-girlfriend, or a much worse explicative application. There are good Christian writers out there and they want to be found, there&#8217;s got to be some way to aggregate feeds in a contextually relevant way &#8211; to eliminate the trailer trash from the garden of Eden. The real need  is to elaborate and collaborate on the purpose for emphasis on the disciple-ship aspects of our faith, namely the apologetic relationships each of us possesses in our testimony and life experience. We have neighbors we don&#8217;t talk to because we&#8217;re all to busy blogging to learn about each other and open the door for potential to escape the ethereal network which confines us to our carnal selves. The longing of our spirit cries to escape the endless plastic clicking, feverishly tickling, until the last ounce of energy is expended &#8211; captured by the ghost in the machine &#8211; and lost because the &#8220;power went out before I could press STINKING RETURN KEY!&#8221; Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Well that&#8217;s my two-cents worth anywho!</p>
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		<title>By: dantes1807</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35186</link>
		<dc:creator>dantes1807</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a great addition. Digg and some of the heavy weights are too broad and niche subjects like christianity get lost in the shuffle. Zoecity allows me to find everything quickly on the subject of christianity. I like other niche sites too such as designbump for web design and http://socialnews.biz for business news. 

It just depends on whether you believe niche sites have value. I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a great addition. Digg and some of the heavy weights are too broad and niche subjects like christianity get lost in the shuffle. Zoecity allows me to find everything quickly on the subject of christianity. I like other niche sites too such as designbump for web design and <a href="http://socialnews.biz" rel="nofollow">http://socialnews.biz</a> for business news. </p>
<p>It just depends on whether you believe niche sites have value. I do.</p>
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		<title>By: @colinwong</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35185</link>
		<dc:creator>@colinwong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official launch is sometime around the week of the 25th.  
 
The value we provide is we sift through the hundreds of websites to find the nuggets so you don&#039;t have to. I&#039;m not aware of other Christian content aggregation websites that do *exactly* the way we do. The issue with aggregation has always been the mechanism for filtering signal-to-noise. Digg was super successful because they created a feedback loop by way of the Digg button to crowdsource popular content.  
 
I&#039;ve seen some Christian aggregation sites that tried to do this but they&#039;ve all failed because you need significant traction i.e. have everyone install your vote button in order to succeed. Then there are those who just aggregate RSS feeds and throw everything out to a feed. Not too useful as I can do the same with my Google RSS Reader and its customized to me. 
 
Our approach is to side-step the chicken-and-egg situation of crowsourced voting by directly monitoring what&#039;s happening in Facebook and Twitter. Since Twitter re-tweets and Facebook re-shares are essentially very strong signals of value, we can directly rank the content without a need for voting buttons. Hence we overcome the chicken-and-egg that other Christian site aggregators could not. 
 
To put it in another way, if I were to vote or give a thumbs up on an article I obviously believe its of value. But if I share it to my friends on Facebook/Twitter then I&#039;m not only saying its of value but I&#039;m putting my reputation on the line. Since we directly monitor Facebook and Twitter, publishers do not need to install any badge or button.  
 
Even if you disagree with our approach, at the very least you&#039;ll know what Christian article/video/story/news is currently having the most impact on social networks. At the end of the day, we just want to be able to present the most relevant stories that impact your life as a Christian.  
 
I hope I have not misunderstood your question. Hope this helps :) 
 
Colin </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official launch is sometime around the week of the 25th.  </p>
<p>The value we provide is we sift through the hundreds of websites to find the nuggets so you don&#039;t have to. I&#039;m not aware of other Christian content aggregation websites that do *exactly* the way we do. The issue with aggregation has always been the mechanism for filtering signal-to-noise. Digg was super successful because they created a feedback loop by way of the Digg button to crowdsource popular content.  </p>
<p>I&#039;ve seen some Christian aggregation sites that tried to do this but they&#039;ve all failed because you need significant traction i.e. have everyone install your vote button in order to succeed. Then there are those who just aggregate RSS feeds and throw everything out to a feed. Not too useful as I can do the same with my Google RSS Reader and its customized to me. </p>
<p>Our approach is to side-step the chicken-and-egg situation of crowsourced voting by directly monitoring what&#039;s happening in Facebook and Twitter. Since Twitter re-tweets and Facebook re-shares are essentially very strong signals of value, we can directly rank the content without a need for voting buttons. Hence we overcome the chicken-and-egg that other Christian site aggregators could not. </p>
<p>To put it in another way, if I were to vote or give a thumbs up on an article I obviously believe its of value. But if I share it to my friends on Facebook/Twitter then I&#039;m not only saying its of value but I&#039;m putting my reputation on the line. Since we directly monitor Facebook and Twitter, publishers do not need to install any badge or button.  </p>
<p>Even if you disagree with our approach, at the very least you&#039;ll know what Christian article/video/story/news is currently having the most impact on social networks. At the end of the day, we just want to be able to present the most relevant stories that impact your life as a Christian.  </p>
<p>I hope I have not misunderstood your question. Hope this helps <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Colin</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35184</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure thing! thanks for taking some of our content here ... ... ...?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;:) just kidding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When is the official launch date? How are you going to create exceptional value outside of your stated ones? I don&#039;t see much original with what you&#039;re doing. Is it just perception? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure thing! thanks for taking some of our content here &#8230; &#8230; &#8230;?</p>
<p> <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  just kidding.</p>
<p>When is the official launch date? How are you going to create exceptional value outside of your stated ones? I don&#039;t see much original with what you&#039;re doing. Is it just perception?</p>
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		<title>By: @colinwong</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35183</link>
		<dc:creator>@colinwong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. My name is Colin Wong and I am the CEO of Zoecity. First, thank you so much for covering Zoecity on ChurchCrunch. I must admit, we&#039;re very pleasantly surprised. Zoecity has not launched yet but will be in a few weeks. We&#039;re putting the final touches now and including a few more features to come. 
 
Allow me to address some of the comments made here. One of the main reasons we did Zoecity was to address the *perception* that there is either no good Christian focused content or much of what exists is cheesy. We wanted to find a way to aggregate the best Christian content intelligently. So its not a straight matter of aggregating RSS feeds and pushing them. We wanted to be able to filter and rank the content in value as well. 
 
We&#039;re sorta similar to Digg but we see ourselves as going to the next level. Instead of having users explicitly vote on content, we feel that the act of sharing is a much stronger signal for value. You can &quot;digg&quot; an article, but if you share it to your friends/family on Twitter/Facebook, you&#039;re putting your reputation on the line.  
 
So content on Zoecity is ranked by the aggregation of Facebook share and Twitter RTs. The more sharing activity an article has, the higher it is ranked. We track content from hundreds of Christian focused websites. We also allow you to submit content either by directly sending the URL to us, or just by adding the &quot;#zoecity&quot; tag in your Twitter post. 
 
From there we push the best of the best out on our feeds. Daily Top 12 Christian articles are pushed out on our Twitter, Facebook and Wordpress plugin feed. The Weekly Top 20 is pushed out on our newsletters. And so forth.  
 
Zoecity is still very much a &quot;beta&quot; product. We welcome your feedback and hope to hear more from you guys :) 
 
Colin </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. My name is Colin Wong and I am the CEO of Zoecity. First, thank you so much for covering Zoecity on ChurchCrunch. I must admit, we&#39;re very pleasantly surprised. Zoecity has not launched yet but will be in a few weeks. We&#39;re putting the final touches now and including a few more features to come. </p>
<p>Allow me to address some of the comments made here. One of the main reasons we did Zoecity was to address the *perception* that there is either no good Christian focused content or much of what exists is cheesy. We wanted to find a way to aggregate the best Christian content intelligently. So its not a straight matter of aggregating RSS feeds and pushing them. We wanted to be able to filter and rank the content in value as well. </p>
<p>We&#39;re sorta similar to Digg but we see ourselves as going to the next level. Instead of having users explicitly vote on content, we feel that the act of sharing is a much stronger signal for value. You can &quot;digg&quot; an article, but if you share it to your friends/family on Twitter/Facebook, you&#39;re putting your reputation on the line.  </p>
<p>So content on Zoecity is ranked by the aggregation of Facebook share and Twitter RTs. The more sharing activity an article has, the higher it is ranked. We track content from hundreds of Christian focused websites. We also allow you to submit content either by directly sending the URL to us, or just by adding the &quot;#zoecity&quot; tag in your Twitter post. </p>
<p>From there we push the best of the best out on our feeds. Daily Top 12 Christian articles are pushed out on our Twitter, Facebook and WordPress plugin feed. The Weekly Top 20 is pushed out on our newsletters. And so forth.  </p>
<p>Zoecity is still very much a &quot;beta&quot; product. We welcome your feedback and hope to hear more from you guys <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Colin</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35182</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps we&#039;ll see one good enough soon...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;;0 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps we&#039;ll see one good enough soon&#8230;</p>
<p>;0</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35181</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to know if one exists. I&#039;ve seen about a dozen Christian social news sites and honestly they are all pretty useless because there is so little traffic on them. We really need a critical mass to make something like digg.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d like to know if one exists. I&#039;ve seen about a dozen Christian social news sites and honestly they are all pretty useless because there is so little traffic on them. We really need a critical mass to make something like digg.</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35180</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh. it&#039;s already an isolationalist site to begin with... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;you&#039;d have to create some super-unique high value for this network for me to visit... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh. it&#39;s already an isolationalist site to begin with&#8230; </p>
<p>you&#39;d have to create some super-unique high value for this network for me to visit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoelWalkley</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/do-we-need-a-christian-social-news-aggregators/#comment-35179</link>
		<dc:creator>JoelWalkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I meant about its function. How does the purpose it serves any different than a tag on an existing site. Maybe there is some great benefit to having a separate site, but I see it as a risk at further isolating Christian content from everyone else. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I meant about its function. How does the purpose it serves any different than a tag on an existing site. Maybe there is some great benefit to having a separate site, but I see it as a risk at further isolating Christian content from everyone else.</p>
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