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	<title>Comments on: Designing with Family and Friends</title>
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	<description>Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology</description>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36556</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Reed</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36555</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have helped out several friends at churches who call me and say we have a website but someone in the charge is in charge of it and they will not do anything with it because they have time.
This is the greatest tragedy, when a church finds out someone does some web design, it then turns from being about good design and getting info out to getting it done cheap and quick, oh ya and enabling someone to &quot;serve&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have helped out several friends at churches who call me and say we have a website but someone in the charge is in charge of it and they will not do anything with it because they have time.<br />
This is the greatest tragedy, when a church finds out someone does some web design, it then turns from being about good design and getting info out to getting it done cheap and quick, oh ya and enabling someone to &quot;serve&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Reed</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36554</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the [/sarcasm]  end there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the [/sarcasm]  end there</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaa...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would be cool, but hard to do.  i do jobs alone, i have a partner.  a lot of times i&#039;m just the bird dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be cool, but hard to do.  i do jobs alone, i have a partner.  a lot of times i&#039;m just the bird dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36551</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get hired by companies and org&#039;s that have a lot of the stuff in the comic going on.  and i&#039;m honest with them about it..i&#039;ve been in those ugly conversations while on staff at churches, companies, and as the consultant. it&#039;s not a perfect world we work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get hired by companies and org&#039;s that have a lot of the stuff in the comic going on.  and i&#039;m honest with them about it..i&#039;ve been in those ugly conversations while on staff at churches, companies, and as the consultant. it&#039;s not a perfect world we work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude...i&#039;ve been in the ugly church member situation and been the guy on staff tasked to take the project and hide it and fix it...projects that have been talked about for years that just sit around...everything i do as a consultant is a product of all those proceses..i&#039;ve learned from the good, bad, and ugly...and i ask for advice even now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude&#8230;i&#039;ve been in the ugly church member situation and been the guy on staff tasked to take the project and hide it and fix it&#8230;projects that have been talked about for years that just sit around&#8230;everything i do as a consultant is a product of all those proceses..i&#039;ve learned from the good, bad, and ugly&#8230;and i ask for advice even now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so true&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36547</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally agree...i&#039;m about having intentional conversations rather than accidental ugly ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree&#8230;i&#039;m about having intentional conversations rather than accidental ugly ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/designing-with-family-and-friends/#comment-36548</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate, but the problem is that I&#039;m usually the one sitting next to my boss while he&#039;s saying this to the designer :( It&#039;s embarrasing, and frankly, I wish the designer (a long time friend of mine) would fire us as his client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate, but the problem is that I&#039;m usually the one sitting next to my boss while he&#039;s saying this to the designer <img src='http://cdn.churchm.ag/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#039;s embarrasing, and frankly, I wish the designer (a long time friend of mine) would fire us as his client.</p>
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