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Copying and Stealing with Steve Jobs

Thoughts?

Check the video of Steve Jobs talking about “copying and stealing” after the jump:

How does this apply to us in ministry? Does it?

15 Responses to “Copying and Stealing with Steve Jobs”

  1. Tom
    March 15, 2010 at #

    I don’t work in the ministry field so my perspective is purely from the periphery, but my initial reaction is that it absolutely applies.

    If it didn’t, we wouldn’t have so many churches looking to other churches (or attending conferences sponsored by other churches) for ideas, thoughts, and inspiration on how to do certain things well.

  2. March 15, 2010 at #

    Well, isn’t Drive all about that? I see Drive as Andy Stanley saying, “Hey, steal from us.”

    The context of the word is important. Take the Standard Theme for instance. When I first looked at it, I saw elements of other themes. It was obvious that you “stole” ideas from others but then you built upon that and made something better.

  3. Chris Martin
    March 15, 2010 at #

    Absolutely, it’s called wisdom. Follow those who have gone before you, find out what worked and what didn’t.

  4. March 15, 2010 at #

    I steal at least one idea a day. No shame in my game either. If your blog post, sermon series graphic, web link, or Tweet can impact or change a life within my sphere of influence, then by all means… I’m taking it!

  5. March 15, 2010 at #

    Some people steal by accident, and think that all their ideas are original.
    Other people steal on purpose…at least they know.

    I don’t exactly understand why Jobs gets so worked up over Microsoft, I wonder if that’s just a media play. They’ve stolen some of his ideas, I wonder if Ballmer quoted Picasso to him…

  6. Gabe Hoffman
    March 15, 2010 at #

    I should blog about this ;)

  7. March 15, 2010 at #

    Totally applies. There’s too much on the line to drag your feet. Be creative! Create! If you hit a wall, steal an idea and make it better or more applicable to your situation.

  8. David Knapp
    March 15, 2010 at #

    I am not sure what he is talking about exactly but… I borrowed (stole) the Top Weekly Commenters idea for my site.

  9. March 15, 2010 at #

    I think the stealing vs borrowing debate can be settled in the church when we stop charging for our content.

    LifeChurch.tv does a great job at this.

    North Point ministries does this to an extent- recouping there costs and then distributing.

    Both models work, and I can’t think of a ministry that gets “it” ever charging someone who really couldn’t pay.

    Ben Arment talked about the value of free in an article in the Jan/Feb issue of Collide magazine. Essentially free doesn’t carry value for some reason. I get that. And I used to avoid free. But now I flock to it. I’ve found better content for free than I’ve found paying for it.

    The interwebs are expanding at an astronomical rate- and free is going to happen wether we a The Church embrace it or not. The questions is: Would you rather have your ministry’s latest content in all it’s glory on youtube or just some crappy iPhone recording of a shot monitor with crappy sound?

    Just my thoughts- that may not make sense. (I kinda just spewed there.)

    • Ben
      March 17, 2010 at #

      The interwebs are expanding at an astronomical rate- and free is going to happen wether we a The Church embrace it or not.

      I think this is exactly right. We have to develop a more “kingdom perspective” on church content and come up with better way to fund our tech. We don’t own the content. The content belongs to God if it’s really ministry.

      The challenge is coming up with a sustainable model for distributing content freely. Mars Hill Seattle has done it and the open source community has been doing it for a long time. The church needs to catch up some.

  10. March 16, 2010 at #

    I think it absolutely applies…a lot of ministry is done nowadays from the standpoint of doing whatever everyone else is doing that’s “successful,” regardless of whether or not it reaches the people around us.

  11. March 16, 2010 at #

    Churches should definitely copy what works at other churches, but adapt it to their context. Stealing is a step too far. But “borrowing” certain ideas will surely grow the kingdom.

    After all, why reinvent the wheel?

  12. March 16, 2010 at #

    Its not stealing if we are sharing right?

    I think that is what it comes down to, are we willing to share our ideas, experiences, advice or are we trying to get ahead by not sharing anything and letting others figure it out for themselves.

  13. brett barner
    March 17, 2010 at #

    I’m scratching my head on this one as I think of how Apple is suing HTC for stealing their ideas, but I agree with the Steve Jobs in this video.

    There’s nothing new under the sun right? I think the idea of artistry is finding and separating the bad ideas from the good, and then compiling those good ideas and making them great.

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