Comments on: Church Online without the Advertisements http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:28:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38684 human3rror Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:23:51 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38684 thanks for your thoughts. ;) and for stopping by. love what you guys are doing. thanks for your thoughts. ;) and for stopping by. love what you guys are doing.

]]> By: Alex Asay http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38683 Alex Asay Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:52:51 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38683 This comment is always my favorite because it comes after a great conversation has started and slams everyone for debating a something so small like how one of the, TEN COMMANDMENTS applies to modern situations. Whoa is you who are week hearted! Whoa is you who have perverted love to be kindness! -to clear all doubt that was satire This comment is always my favorite because it comes after a great conversation has started and slams everyone for debating a something so small like how one of the, TEN COMMANDMENTS applies to modern situations. Whoa is you who are week hearted! Whoa is you who have perverted love to be kindness!

-to clear all doubt that was satire

]]> By: Hearthesound http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38682 Hearthesound Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:17:44 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38682 Because when did the online church become a place of condemnation? Shouldn't it be a place for encouragement and cheering? Not a place to rile ones feathers or cast judgment? I have to say, I WELCOME their suggestion to block the Viagra & KY ads that have come up while watching church online! Because when did the online church become a place of condemnation? Shouldn't it be a place for encouragement and cheering? Not a place to rile ones feathers or cast judgment?

I have to say, I WELCOME their suggestion to block the Viagra & KY ads that have come up while watching church online!

]]> By: Hearthesound http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38681 Hearthesound Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:15:34 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38681 I am dumbfounded at how legalistic this discussion among believers has become. These discussions which take our eyes off of the focus and puts it on something that is small and unproductive. You may have a stance on how Watermark has approached this, and that is fine. My problem with those stances is when people see the legalistic detail and get caught up with that and don't see the end goal and the people it touches. I am dumbfounded at how legalistic this discussion among believers has become. These discussions which take our eyes off of the focus and puts it on something that is small and unproductive. You may have a stance on how Watermark has approached this, and that is fine. My problem with those stances is when people see the legalistic detail and get caught up with that and don't see the end goal and the people it touches.

]]> By: Hearthesound http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38680 Hearthesound Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:12:50 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38680 I am dumbfounded at how legalistic this discussion among believers has become. These discussions which take our eyes off of the focus and puts it on something that is small and unproductive. You may have a stance on how Watermark has approached this, and that is fine. My problem with those stances is when people see the legalistic detail and get caught up with that and don't see the end goal and the people it touches. It angers me slightly to see that this has even become a topic of discussion. When did the online Church become a place for condemnation? It seems the online Church should be a place for encouragement and cheering on our fellow brothers in Christ, not publicly trying to rile their feathers. I have to say, a budget of $750 a year is not much, and what they do with that is pretty amazing. If Watermark chooses to recommend something that keeps the Viagra & KY adds off the screen while I am watching online, then I would WELCOME that!! I do not at all think it reflects their integrity or what they are trying to portray, I only think it shows consideration that yes, they realize that there are downsides to the free product and they are offering an OPTIONAL way out of them as they test this out. As Brad said, isnt' that what TIVO & DVR do? I am dumbfounded at how legalistic this discussion among believers has become. These discussions which take our eyes off of the focus and puts it on something that is small and unproductive. You may have a stance on how Watermark has approached this, and that is fine. My problem with those stances is when people see the legalistic detail and get caught up with that and don't see the end goal and the people it touches.

It angers me slightly to see that this has even become a topic of discussion. When did the online Church become a place for condemnation? It seems the online Church should be a place for encouragement and cheering on our fellow brothers in Christ, not publicly trying to rile their feathers.

I have to say, a budget of $750 a year is not much, and what they do with that is pretty amazing. If Watermark chooses to recommend something that keeps the Viagra & KY adds off the screen while I am watching online, then I would WELCOME that!! I do not at all think it reflects their integrity or what they are trying to portray, I only think it shows consideration that yes, they realize that there are downsides to the free product and they are offering an OPTIONAL way out of them as they test this out. As Brad said, isnt' that what TIVO & DVR do?

]]> By: Rich Emery http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38679 Rich Emery Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:53:01 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38679 As a church media director myself I am fully on the same page as Brad, I have watched parts of there livestream and I did not mind the ads they are not distracting but on the other had it is nice to know that he is still letting people know of a free resource to get rid of ads if you really don't want to seen them. I know I use adblock plus all the time and I'm sure that there is stuff on this site that I have blocked. As a church media director myself I am fully on the same page as Brad, I have watched parts of there livestream and I did not mind the ads they are not distracting but on the other had it is nice to know that he is still letting people know of a free resource to get rid of ads if you really don't want to seen them. I know I use adblock plus all the time and I'm sure that there is stuff on this site that I have blocked.

]]> By: Brad Zimmerman http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38678 Brad Zimmerman Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:24:26 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38678 As of right now I don't know any people who have installed adblock because of our link. Most people say the ads arn't a big deal. They are used to them online. As of right now I don't know any people who have installed adblock because of our link. Most people say the ads arn't a big deal. They are used to them online.

]]> By: Greg http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38677 Greg Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:20:53 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38677 I see your point...but do we not reach a point of splitting hairs? I'm just asking...not making a declarative statement. The question I have is "How is it perceived by people visiting that site...regardless of their faith status?" The Open Source side of me says..woohoo FTW. The other side says....um, but that's how that company is able to cover costs to offer the free service. They depend on ad revenue. Helping users discover how to block that is potentially shorting that company from revenue. I see your point…but do we not reach a point of splitting hairs? I'm just asking…not making a declarative statement.

The question I have is "How is it perceived by people visiting that site…regardless of their faith status?"

The Open Source side of me says..woohoo FTW. The other side says….um, but that's how that company is able to cover costs to offer the free service. They depend on ad revenue. Helping users discover how to block that is potentially shorting that company from revenue.

]]> By: Brad Zimmerman http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38676 Brad Zimmerman Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:14:23 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38676 Greg, we are not intentionally blocking ads, we have no control over the ads that are brought onto our web page. The end user has to block the ad. We are just mentioning that you can block the ad if you want to. This is the same as Tivo offering away to skip commercials. Greg, we are not intentionally blocking ads, we have no control over the ads that are brought onto our web page. The end user has to block the ad. We are just mentioning that you can block the ad if you want to. This is the same as Tivo offering away to skip commercials.

]]> By: benjizimmerman http://churchm.ag/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38675 benjizimmerman Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:09:15 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/2009/10/02/church-online-without-the-advertisements/#comment-38675 Great response Brad. I just love what you do for $750 a year. Sometimes I just laugh to think about how much Central, Northpoint, and all the others in the top 100 sized churches spend on a WEEKEND, let alone a YEAR! Proud of you bro. Great response Brad. I just love what you do for $750 a year. Sometimes I just laugh to think about how much Central, Northpoint, and all the others in the top 100 sized churches spend on a WEEKEND, let alone a YEAR! Proud of you bro.

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