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	<title>Comments on: Christian Venture Startup Group</title>
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		<title>By: Kenny Jahng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny Jahng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, glad to see that you have Redeemer&#039;s Ei (Entrepreneurship Initative) on the radar.  You might want to pop on by again (and in person if you&#039;re ever in the Big Apple!) to see how the Business Plan Competition as well as the annual Ei Forum has flourished over the recent years.  http://www.faithandwork.org/ei</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, glad to see that you have Redeemer&#8217;s Ei (Entrepreneurship Initative) on the radar.  You might want to pop on by again (and in person if you&#8217;re ever in the Big Apple!) to see how the Business Plan Competition as well as the annual Ei Forum has flourished over the recent years.  <a href="http://www.faithandwork.org/ei" rel="nofollow">http://www.faithandwork.org/ei</a></p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49794</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would be great! have you seen anything like that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be great! have you seen anything like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Knecht</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49793</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Knecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree. I would love for my church to start a coffeehouse in my community. We are an inner-city church, and have alot of space that is not being used. It would also serve a community need by getting youth off of the streets, and providing a safe place where they can hang out. Everyone can come listen to music, and maybe have some poetry readings. And maybe, learn that  our God is an &quot;Awesome God&quot;. I just thought of another idea, a Christian themed open-mike night. 
AMEN!!!!! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree. I would love for my church to start a coffeehouse in my community. We are an inner-city church, and have alot of space that is not being used. It would also serve a community need by getting youth off of the streets, and providing a safe place where they can hang out. Everyone can come listen to music, and maybe have some poetry readings. And maybe, learn that  our God is an &quot;Awesome God&quot;. I just thought of another idea, a Christian themed open-mike night.<br />
AMEN!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49792</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, thanks for weighing Brady!  keep us posted on how your degree comes and where you&#039;re going with it...! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, thanks for weighing Brady!  keep us posted on how your degree comes and where you&#039;re going with it&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49791</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the converstaion. I&#039;m a little late joining the party. I&#039;m actually doing my MBA at a Christian Liberal Arts University with a focus in Entrepreneurship. I&#039;m looking at the potential viability of an Internet start-up that is ultimately geared toward affecting positive change through the use of &quot;Christ Centered&quot; media. I agee, we have to spread the gospel to the unsaved, but we must provide a needed service or product which is based upon a business model that works. I prefer the &quot;wise as a serpant approach.&quot; We can deliver services or products that depict the character of Christ without overtly advertising it. Kind of a counterbalance to the grey slippery slope the devil delivers his message. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the converstaion. I&#039;m a little late joining the party. I&#039;m actually doing my MBA at a Christian Liberal Arts University with a focus in Entrepreneurship. I&#039;m looking at the potential viability of an Internet start-up that is ultimately geared toward affecting positive change through the use of &quot;Christ Centered&quot; media. I agee, we have to spread the gospel to the unsaved, but we must provide a needed service or product which is based upon a business model that works. I prefer the &quot;wise as a serpant approach.&quot; We can deliver services or products that depict the character of Christ without overtly advertising it. Kind of a counterbalance to the grey slippery slope the devil delivers his message.</p>
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		<title>By: human3rror</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49790</link>
		<dc:creator>human3rror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>disqus!  it&#039;s awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disqus!  it&#39;s awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: scott overpeck</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49789</link>
		<dc:creator>scott overpeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meebo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meebo?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49788</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott,

Great points here.  I&#039;m decided to look into some better commenting features just because of the great back-and-forth we&#039;ve got going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott,</p>
<p>Great points here.  I&#8217;m decided to look into some better commenting features just because of the great back-and-forth we&#8217;ve got going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Overpeck</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49787</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Overpeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I am simply saying that the more we as the church insulate and isolate the less chance we have to impact people.  I know of two amazing Christian guys who are investing in young Christians they know with training and cash to develop biz ideas.  But if that was to be expanded to a Bain Capital type enterprise I see the potential for it to become TBN&#039;d.  Everyone always says a &quot;christian&quot; tv or radio network will impact the world, but it always ends up being a way to avoid the world.  

Also, as to the previous 1st point I am saying to be worthwhile for investors (rather than donors) there must be wide appeal.  Niche markets can be profitable but  are better served by a few private investors than a VC firm.  

In some cases it sounds like you are looking more so for a foundation to donate to good causes.  Great idea.

Others it sounds like you are think a niche investment firm.  But I think that like most  &quot;christian&quot; companies, if it is really successful would be absorbed into a larger company (think Word--Warner Bros.)

Not looking to rain on your parade, I just feel pretty strongly that tshirts that steal the Budweiser logo and put King of Kings in place of King of Beers are not what Jesus had in mind and with a &quot;christian&quot; VC you would run the risk of pushing a lot of this crap.  

Radio stations start out saying their going to be different, but invariably end up focusing on a solid Evangelical demographic.  This is preaching to the choir, not preaching the Gospel.

I do enjoy the conversations and enjoy reading your site in my feedreader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I am simply saying that the more we as the church insulate and isolate the less chance we have to impact people.  I know of two amazing Christian guys who are investing in young Christians they know with training and cash to develop biz ideas.  But if that was to be expanded to a Bain Capital type enterprise I see the potential for it to become TBN&#8217;d.  Everyone always says a &#8220;christian&#8221; tv or radio network will impact the world, but it always ends up being a way to avoid the world.  </p>
<p>Also, as to the previous 1st point I am saying to be worthwhile for investors (rather than donors) there must be wide appeal.  Niche markets can be profitable but  are better served by a few private investors than a VC firm.  </p>
<p>In some cases it sounds like you are looking more so for a foundation to donate to good causes.  Great idea.</p>
<p>Others it sounds like you are think a niche investment firm.  But I think that like most  &#8220;christian&#8221; companies, if it is really successful would be absorbed into a larger company (think Word&#8211;Warner Bros.)</p>
<p>Not looking to rain on your parade, I just feel pretty strongly that tshirts that steal the Budweiser logo and put King of Kings in place of King of Beers are not what Jesus had in mind and with a &#8220;christian&#8221; VC you would run the risk of pushing a lot of this crap.  </p>
<p>Radio stations start out saying their going to be different, but invariably end up focusing on a solid Evangelical demographic.  This is preaching to the choir, not preaching the Gospel.</p>
<p>I do enjoy the conversations and enjoy reading your site in my feedreader.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://churchm.ag/christian-venture-startup-group/#comment-49786</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SWEET!  Thanks for the hookup!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SWEET!  Thanks for the hookup!</p>
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