Comments on: Authentic or just Rude? – Your Thoughts http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:28:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: human3rror http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46521 human3rror Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:01:09 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46521 hmm. word. hmm. word.

]]> By: Lyle Parker http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46520 Lyle Parker Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:04:54 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46520 I don't negate the importance of being authentic, but the call of God on all of our lives is to strive to be LESS of ourselves and let the mind of Christ rule our hearts. to use being authentic as some excuse for letting our flaws have an outlet goes against the very nature of bringing our thoughts under subjection to Christ. the whole point is to catch our thoughts before they turn into words and examine them to strive to be more Christlike. The fundamental fallacy here is begging the question "we are all just natural flawed humans right". followed by the "pardon me" plea at then end by saying "maybe I'm wrong...i don't know"...just some thoughts I don't negate the importance of being authentic, but the call of God on all of our lives is to strive to be LESS of ourselves and let the mind of Christ rule our hearts. to use being authentic as some excuse for letting our flaws have an outlet goes against the very nature of bringing our thoughts under subjection to Christ. the whole point is to catch our thoughts before they turn into words and examine them to strive to be more Christlike. The fundamental fallacy here is begging the question "we are all just natural flawed humans right". followed by the "pardon me" plea at then end by saying "maybe I'm wrong…i don't know"…just some thoughts

]]> By: Rodlie Ortiz http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46519 Rodlie Ortiz Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:26:52 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46519 If "authentic" for a christian means to "curse" every once in a while, I think that Chris has deeper issues. I'm not saying we don't make mistakes, but it certainly shouldn't be something that you say to BE authentic. It's complete nonsense. If "authentic" for a christian means to "curse" every once in a while, I think that Chris has deeper issues. I'm not saying we don't make mistakes, but it certainly shouldn't be something that you say to BE authentic. It's complete nonsense.

]]> By: dewde http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46518 dewde Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:43:13 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46518 That appears to me to be a very narrow view which disregards evidence found in huge swaths of our culture. I can think of two professions that are noble and culturally accepting of expletives. Law enforcement and the military. Guess they're too busy defending our lives and our liberties to be bothered with defending our feelings. peace|dewde That appears to me to be a very narrow view which disregards evidence found in huge swaths of our culture. I can think of two professions that are noble and culturally accepting of expletives. Law enforcement and the military.

Guess they're too busy defending our lives and our liberties to be bothered with defending our feelings.

peace|dewde

]]> By: Gabe Taviano http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46506 Gabe Taviano Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:40:03 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46506 Flippant language just seems childish to me, and not just pertaining to the "churched". Would be thrilled to hear you view on what truly matters, Christ alone and His death on the cross. I'm just a sinner who comments on blogs, so I hope you don't think I'm commenting representing the thoughts of all other Christians. I guess this is what happens when people become real and get deeper than the surface. That's one thing I really like about serious blogs. Very quick with the calling up of Romans 14:10. What Bible software are you using for your studies? Would really recommend Logos if you're looking. My intent wasn't to throw a stone at you, unless you saw one flying at you I guess? Only God knows the truth behind our confidence vs. arrogance. I'm speculating when I'm guessing that you're most comfortable when you can blurt out whatever you choose to. Very well could be wrong there, and appreciate you asking. I've been arrogant myself many times. I just tend not to post those moments on Viddler. You know how we Christians roll. We only act up when we're not in church and outside of public view. Flippant language just seems childish to me, and not just pertaining to the "churched". Would be thrilled to hear you view on what truly matters, Christ alone and His death on the cross. I'm just a sinner who comments on blogs, so I hope you don't think I'm commenting representing the thoughts of all other Christians. I guess this is what happens when people become real and get deeper than the surface. That's one thing I really like about serious blogs. Very quick with the calling up of Romans 14:10. What Bible software are you using for your studies? Would really recommend Logos if you're looking.

My intent wasn't to throw a stone at you, unless you saw one flying at you I guess? Only God knows the truth behind our confidence vs. arrogance. I'm speculating when I'm guessing that you're most comfortable when you can blurt out whatever you choose to. Very well could be wrong there, and appreciate you asking. I've been arrogant myself many times. I just tend not to post those moments on Viddler. You know how we Christians roll. We only act up when we're not in church and outside of public view.

]]> By: Tired of Christians http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46517 Tired of Christians Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:48 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46517 Ya know what I love about Christians? How we can bicker, fight, debate about anything - how we can twist, redefine, rework, interpret or reinterpret anything so it fits our day to day life. Even the Bible. Ugh. Ya know what I love about Christians? How we can bicker, fight, debate about anything – how we can twist, redefine, rework, interpret or reinterpret anything so it fits our day to day life. Even the Bible.

Ugh.

]]> By: DreadedRafifi http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46516 DreadedRafifi Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:13:58 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46516 Are words inherently evil? Is one word more evil than another word? Or does a culture place meaning on words making them evil or not evil? In the 1950's "suck" would have been almost as bad as dropping the f*bomb but now it's common place and acceptable. If the words we use convey authenticity and we have a right relationship with God, don't you think the Spirit will lead you to use the best words possible to convey Gods message? Could this possibly be base language considering the cultural context of the conversation? I have a Christian friend who lives in an inner city area who would attest that none other than that would penetrate some of those living there because they may not know any other language for lack of education. Where then do you start, by telling them they need to get better before they can understand God or speak to them at their level in terms they can understand? Authentic doesn't = base language. But why can't base language can be a tool to communicate God's love? Are words inherently evil? Is one word more evil than another word? Or does a culture place meaning on words making them evil or not evil? In the 1950's "suck" would have been almost as bad as dropping the f*bomb but now it's common place and acceptable.

If the words we use convey authenticity and we have a right relationship with God, don't you think the Spirit will lead you to use the best words possible to convey Gods message? Could this possibly be base language considering the cultural context of the conversation? I have a Christian friend who lives in an inner city area who would attest that none other than that would penetrate some of those living there because they may not know any other language for lack of education.

Where then do you start, by telling them they need to get better before they can understand God or speak to them at their level in terms they can understand?

Authentic doesn't = base language. But why can't base language can be a tool to communicate God's love?

]]> By: Bill http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46515 Bill Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:50:14 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46515 So the thief was saved prior to the moment on the cross, or had accepted Christ, and was just undisciplined? I think he was unsaved, undisciplined and made a choice while on the cross next to the Lord, to accept the Lord. Just as anyone else who chooses salvation and to follow Christ, and Christ has allowed that acceptance to come at any point while still on the Earth in a flesh body - even on the death bead and holds us accountable for sharing or not sharing, choosing not choosing. The disciples were not called disciples and were not disciplined until accepting and following Christ. What and who were they before? Go read the Bible and find out. Maybe by cussing, Chris is considered undisciplined by this thread, by businesses and maybe not. Maybe he is considered rude, crude or unruly. Maybe he is viewed as a sinner and wrong. Haven't we all been there before? Who shared Christ with you that made a difference in your choice to accept Him? How did they share that with you? Question is this: Is Chris saved? Or not? Has he heard the truth of the Lord, from a Biblical perspective, rather than from a bickering Christian perspective? How willing, after the comments and discussion here, do you think one would be to hearing the Gospel? I don't know those answers, nor do probably any of you. I am willing to find out in a non-threatening way, a non-assuming way, and not judge him for any of his choices one way or the other, personal, business or religious - whether we ever talk, meet or else wise interact with each other. Christ doesn't say to boycott the sinner, but to hate the sin, love the sinner....or have we as Christians confused or forgotten that somewhere. Oh what the bickering amongst Christians shows of the love of Christ to all....none. What the shredding, bashing or boycotting of a "sinner" shows of the love of Christ...I feel it may not show any of His love. Christ showed love to all, and commanded us to do the same. So the thief was saved prior to the moment on the cross, or had accepted Christ, and was just undisciplined? I think he was unsaved, undisciplined and made a choice while on the cross next to the Lord, to accept the Lord. Just as anyone else who chooses salvation and to follow Christ, and Christ has allowed that acceptance to come at any point while still on the Earth in a flesh body – even on the death bead and holds us accountable for sharing or not sharing, choosing not choosing. The disciples were not called disciples and were not disciplined until accepting and following Christ. What and who were they before? Go read the Bible and find out.

Maybe by cussing, Chris is considered undisciplined by this thread, by businesses and maybe not. Maybe he is considered rude, crude or unruly. Maybe he is viewed as a sinner and wrong. Haven't we all been there before? Who shared Christ with you that made a difference in your choice to accept Him? How did they share that with you?

Question is this: Is Chris saved? Or not? Has he heard the truth of the Lord, from a Biblical perspective, rather than from a bickering Christian perspective? How willing, after the comments and discussion here, do you think one would be to hearing the Gospel?

I don't know those answers, nor do probably any of you. I am willing to find out in a non-threatening way, a non-assuming way, and not judge him for any of his choices one way or the other, personal, business or religious – whether we ever talk, meet or else wise interact with each other. Christ doesn't say to boycott the sinner, but to hate the sin, love the sinner….or have we as Christians confused or forgotten that somewhere.

Oh what the bickering amongst Christians shows of the love of Christ to all….none. What the shredding, bashing or boycotting of a "sinner" shows of the love of Christ…I feel it may not show any of His love. Christ showed love to all, and commanded us to do the same.

]]> By: chrisdat http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46514 chrisdat Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:40:25 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46514 Definition: Authentic Christian - one who uses base language. Somehow I don't think this definition works. Definition: Authentic Christian – one who uses base language.

Somehow I don't think this definition works.

]]> By: erikcantu http://churchm.ag/authentic-or-just-rude-your-thoughts/#comment-46513 erikcantu Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:40:15 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=2472#comment-46513 authentic, maybe. certainly undisciplined; and that is what we are do be as disciples. we aren't animals going through life just doing what we feel like. authentic, maybe. certainly undisciplined; and that is what we are do be as disciples. we aren't animals going through life just doing what we feel like.

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