Comments on: A Post in Which I Relate the Recommendation of Internet Explorer 5.5 to the Church http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/ Exploring the Intersection of Church and Technology Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:17:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Internet Explorer 5.5 and the Church…A Fair Comparison? - MinistryPlace.Net http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37608 Internet Explorer 5.5 and the Church…A Fair Comparison? - MinistryPlace.Net Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:00:48 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37608 [...] America. I found some of the points very thought-provoking. Are you willing to keep the status quo? Take a read… Tags: Church, IE, Leadership, Ministry, [...] [...] America. I found some of the points very thought-provoking. Are you willing to keep the status quo? Take a read… Tags: Church, IE, Leadership, Ministry, [...]

]]> By: Jonathan http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37607 Jonathan Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:14:00 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37607 Andy, this has to be one your top 5 posts. Great analogy as well as thought provoking. What's very interesting is I'm in my 30s, consider myself contemporary (culturally) and I find myself saying "what are these kids doing these days, what are they wearing and what is this fire cracker knucks all about?"). I may not be IE 5.5, but I will say it's an easy pattern for all of us to fall in to. I'm a late 90s early 2000s church person for the most part...which is starting to make me outdated. What a challenge. Andy, this has to be one your top 5 posts. Great analogy as well as thought provoking. What's very interesting is I'm in my 30s, consider myself contemporary (culturally) and I find myself saying "what are these kids doing these days, what are they wearing and what is this fire cracker knucks all about?"). I may not be IE 5.5, but I will say it's an easy pattern for all of us to fall in to. I'm a late 90s early 2000s church person for the most part…which is starting to make me outdated. What a challenge.

]]> By: Andy Darnell’s Mindmap » Blog Archive » That’s Right. I’m Wearing a Snuggie at Work http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37606 Andy Darnell’s Mindmap » Blog Archive » That’s Right. I’m Wearing a Snuggie at Work Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:59:25 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37606 [...] A Post in which I relate Internet Explorer 5.5 to the Church (A Blog Post that I wrote for Churchcrunch.com) [...] [...] A Post in which I relate Internet Explorer 5.5 to the Church (A Blog Post that I wrote for Churchcrunch.com) [...]

]]> By: andydarnell http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37593 andydarnell Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:18:29 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37593 I happen to work directly with healthcare marketers on a day to day basis. I hear this same line day in and day out. That is why I love this community so much, because I get some positive reinforcement that the ideas that I want to push are ok. I happen to work directly with healthcare marketers on a day to day basis. I hear this same line day in and day out. That is why I love this community so much, because I get some positive reinforcement that the ideas that I want to push are ok.

]]> By: Tom http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37594 Tom Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:20:25 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37594 I totally dig this analogy. Like you said, there are a lot of churches that try to stick with what works. They don't wanna push the envelope because they don't wanna deal with the challenges of being backward compatible. If that's what works, okay, but the people will begin to feel it. And if the church doesn't do something about it, then something more relevant (not necessarily better!) will come along. Like The Church Of Firefox or The Denomination of Chrome. I think that some people believe when you begin to innovate, then you may make things uncomfortable for everyone. One of the big things about my church is that they (or we?) attempt to create predictable environments - predictability helps people know what to expect and feel comfortable - but that doesn't stifle innovation. <a href="http://northpointonline.tv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Case in point</a>. Maybe I'm way off - I don't run a church. I just attend one. But I feel that if you wanna continue to grow and stay on the edge of what reaches people, you're going to have to stretch yourself a bit. Or you can just use IE. I totally dig this analogy.

Like you said, there are a lot of churches that try to stick with what works. They don't wanna push the envelope because they don't wanna deal with the challenges of being backward compatible. If that's what works, okay, but the people will begin to feel it. And if the church doesn't do something about it, then something more relevant (not necessarily better!) will come along. Like The Church Of Firefox or The Denomination of Chrome.

I think that some people believe when you begin to innovate, then you may make things uncomfortable for everyone. One of the big things about my church is that they (or we?) attempt to create predictable environments – predictability helps people know what to expect and feel comfortable – but that doesn't stifle innovation. Case in point.

Maybe I'm way off – I don't run a church. I just attend one. But I feel that if you wanna continue to grow and stay on the edge of what reaches people, you're going to have to stretch yourself a bit.

Or you can just use IE.

]]> By: Tom http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37595 Tom Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:20:25 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37595 I totally dig this analogy. Like you said, there are a lot of churches that try to stick with what works. They don't wanna push the envelope because they don't wanna deal with the challenges of being backward compatible. If that's what works, okay, but the people will begin to feel it. And if the church doesn't do something about it, then something more relevant (not necessarily better!) will come along. Like The Church Of Firefox or The Denomination of Chrome. I think that some people believe when you begin to innovate, then you may make things uncomfortable for everyone. One of the big things about my church is that they (or we?) attempt to create predictable environments - predictability helps people know what to expect and feel comfortable - but that doesn't stifle innovation. <a href="http://northpointonline.tv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Case in point</a>. Maybe I'm way off - I don't run a church. I just attend one. But I feel that if you wanna continue to grow and stay on the edge of what reaches people, you're going to have to stretch yourself a bit. Or you can just use IE. I totally dig this analogy.

Like you said, there are a lot of churches that try to stick with what works. They don't wanna push the envelope because they don't wanna deal with the challenges of being backward compatible. If that's what works, okay, but the people will begin to feel it. And if the church doesn't do something about it, then something more relevant (not necessarily better!) will come along. Like The Church Of Firefox or The Denomination of Chrome.

I think that some people believe when you begin to innovate, then you may make things uncomfortable for everyone. One of the big things about my church is that they (or we?) attempt to create predictable environments – predictability helps people know what to expect and feel comfortable – but that doesn't stifle innovation. Case in point.

Maybe I'm way off – I don't run a church. I just attend one. But I feel that if you wanna continue to grow and stay on the edge of what reaches people, you're going to have to stretch yourself a bit.

Or you can just use IE.

]]> By: andydarnell http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37605 andydarnell Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:07:07 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37605 yep. I think I heard Andy Stanley at Drive last year talk about this in a way that I as a lay person haven't ever considered. Those that go into full time ministry work, didn't do it so that they could raise money. Eyes on the Mission. This is why Vision and mission needs to be reminded and reminded and reminded... yep. I think I heard Andy Stanley at Drive last year talk about this in a way that I as a lay person haven't ever considered. Those that go into full time ministry work, didn't do it so that they could raise money. Eyes on the Mission. This is why Vision and mission needs to be reminded and reminded and reminded…

]]> By: andydarnell http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37604 andydarnell Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:04:35 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37604 "Super Nerd?" ok I agree. "Super Nerd?"

ok I agree.

]]> By: andydarnell http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37603 andydarnell Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:01:04 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37603 Agreed. I've been holding on to a post for weeks. I finally hit the submit button after much prayer for who it is going to rub. "I am NOT your Demographic" <a href="http://www.andydarnell.com/?p=1449" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.andydarnell.com/?p=1449</a> I don't want to be that guy holding on to my way of worship or church methodology. I want to get out of God's way and let Him Reign. Agreed. I've been holding on to a post for weeks. I finally hit the submit button after much prayer for who it is going to rub. "I am NOT your Demographic" http://www.andydarnell.com/?p=1449

I don't want to be that guy holding on to my way of worship or church methodology. I want to get out of God's way and let Him Reign.

]]> By: room1012 http://churchm.ag/a-post-in-which-i-relate-the-recommendation-of-internet-explorer-5-5-to-the-church/#comment-37587 room1012 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:00:38 +0000 http://churchcrunch.com/?p=7139#comment-37587 I love this line: "We recognize that there are great applications out there that other people use, but that is for them to use… not us." I think you should add... "...even if we really really need it." It's so true. I deal with that mentality all the time. The worst part is, it's people I respect greatly. These are not dumb people so the question remains: (why are they acting like it? j/k) how do we reach them? (lk dannyjbixby said...) I love this line: "We recognize that there are great applications out there that other people use, but that is for them to use… not us." I think you should add… "…even if we really really need it."

It's so true. I deal with that mentality all the time. The worst part is, it's people I respect greatly. These are not dumb people so the question remains: (why are they acting like it? j/k) how do we reach them? (lk dannyjbixby said…)

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